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Why wait 'til flying's over?? We had a notable pattern jockey a number
of years ago who flew better with a beer...or 3.<br>
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Anyway, I'm surprised no one in NSRCA-land knows what BOPOD stands for!<br>
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On 12/15/2014 11:05 PM, Ronald Van Putte via NSRCA-discussion wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I will definitely agree with that! Site 4 rocks with BOPOD, Victor Diaz’ ribs and <big><big>Van Putte’s margaritas after the day’s flying is over.
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Ron
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<pre wrap="">On Dec 15, 2014, at 9:35 PM, Jeff and Claire via NSRCA-discussion <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org></a> wrote:
BOPOD is the man! (and one of many reasons you want to go to the NATS to fly or hang out at Site 4)
Jeff Worsham
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I WAS going to say that, but didn’t because BOPOD is so sensitive. Jon on the other hand is ….
Ron
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If Doug (aka BOBOD), can figure it out, anyone can!
JonOn Dec 15, 2014 8:40 PM, Ronald Van Putte via NSRCA-discussion <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org></a> wrote:
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Ask him what BOPOD stands for.
Ron Van Putte
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Date: December 15, 2014 at 8:16:15 PM CST
To: Lance <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:patterndude@tx.rr.com"><patterndude@tx.rr.com></a>, General pattern discussion
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Virtual Caller for iOS
From: Doug Harvel via NSRCA-discussion
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Peter I have today downloaded the RC Caller on my iPhone, and I love
it. In your demo you showed how to go back by tilting your
transmitter. I will be using my iPhone with earphones and using the
voice mode. To go back you used the tilting the transmitter. Guess I
am just not smart enough to go back using voice. Can it be done by
voice and if so how....going forward is even easy for me, just say
NEXT and away I go.....Thanks .....Doug Harvel aka BOPOD
On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Lance via NSRCA-discussion <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org></a> wrote:
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Ok this helps a lot . By "headphone button" I assume you mean "calling enabled ". I am now able to change the starting orientation and then turn off/on calling enabled to rest the neutral point. I think you are successfully calculating rotational angles because it seems I can establish a neutral point with the phone not necessarily flat or vertical but somewhere in between.
I had more success this time but found that it seems pretty sensitive to returning to that initial pose. Returning to a position close to the original can lead to missed or extra advances to the "next" maneuver. So the sensitivity request is really two sensitivities. One for how much change determines a "next" event and another for what is considered a successful return to neutral pose. Possibly consider resetting the neutral orientation every time it successfully returns to neutral so the delta for a change event is always measured from "zero"
This is a great platform and pulling sequences from a server is
good design. These polish suggestions will make it fit more pilot
personal styles more easily. Thanks
Lance
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On Dec 14, 2014, at 9:46 AM, Peter Vogel <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com"><vogel.peter@gmail.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Thanks Lance!
I do, in fact, sample the orientation of the device when you click the headphone button, and adding a sensitivity option is definitely on my to do list.
In a vest pocket, device in 'natural' vertical orientation, yaw would probably be your best bet. It's very important that you be set and in position to fly when you click the headphone button to start calling.
What may work better for you is to strap the phone to a wrist so you can twist your wrist. Way up there at your vest pocket a slight motion of your upper body will be amplified.
I know several people have mounted the phone to their handheld TX and successfully called themselves through a flight.
Peter+
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On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 7:06 AM -0800, "Lance" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:patterndude@tx.rr.com"><patterndude@tx.rr.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Nice job! I don't fly with a tray but assumed I could slide the phone into a breast pocket (vertical default orientation) and tilt my body to advance to the next maneuver but it's not working well. I've tried all the tilt axes but the caller just runs away calling maneuvers too fast. I suspect you assume the default orientation is that the phone will be flat horizontal or close to it so its confused when the phone is vertical.
Maybe when the user selects their roll axis you can sample the current orientation to set the default position?
Also it would be nice to have a slider to adjust the sensitivity. A very still pilot could use just a small tilt to indicate whereas a pilot using more body English needs less sensitivity.
Lance
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On Dec 8, 2014, at 3:56 PM, Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Given that every sequence is changing for next year, it seems a good time to introduce people to the virtual caller application I listed on the Apple App Store yesterday:
Video of it in action:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOEfi3VqnCQ">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOEfi3VqnCQ</a>
Get it on the Apple App Store: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://t.co/aIBFvQBsuI">https://t.co/aIBFvQBsuI</a>
Available now for a limited time at $1.99, price will increase soon to $2.99 This will work with every iOS device out there -- iPod touch, iPhone, iPad Mini, etc. (though I wouldn't want to put an iPad on the bottom of my transmitter to use the tilt control!) but the screen format is optimized for iPhone/iPod touch. You will need to be on the network the first time you run so it can download the sequences from the cloud.
All profits go to F3A Team USA -- if you are Canadian and buy
it, shoot me a note and I'll apply profits from your purchase to
F3A Team Canada! If you prefer the donation to go to F3P Team
USA, shoot me a note and I'll apply the profits to F3P :-)
I'll add $1.00 per review of the app that hits the app store this week to my donation! Be sure to mention in the review if you fly/support F3A or F3P (or both).
This is the product of 100's of hours of development, not so much because the app is complex or hard (it wasn't) but getting a method of controlling the caller that works in field conditions took a lot of trial & error.
Your feedback is welcome!
Peter+
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