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I set this up 4 years ago as a fun event for Sunday morning at our
fall contest here in Albuquerque. Scott McHarg has been designing
the sequences for us since the inception of the event. The sequence
is designed to be a K-Factor of about 55 in 17 maneuvers with the
intent being a difficulty level between Advanced and Masters.
Landings and takeoffs do not count. Each year Scott sends the
sequence to our perennial Chief Judge- Richard Lindberg. This year
we passed out the sequences at the Saturday night party to the six
participants( 4 Masters and 2 Advanced). There is no additional
charge to enter and the only prize is the winner gets his name on
the perpetual trophy.<br>
An important part of the event is that we handicap the classes.
Results are calculated by determining the weighted average maneuver
score and adding 0.5 points for Advanced. 1.5 points for
Intermediate and 2.5 points for Sportsman. FAI and Masters have no
bonus. While It might seem too difficult for Sportsman and
Intermediate, we did have a second place finish by an Intermediate
pilot a couple of years ago and this year it was won by an Advanced
pilot, both placings helped by the handicapping.<br>
John<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/23/2014 7:15 AM, Jeff and Claire
via NSRCA-discussion wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans
MS"">The Watermmelon Cup Unknown is an annual event in
the fall Albuquerque contest. John Gayer (who developed it
4 years ago) was CD should be able to describe how it comes
together each year. Not having the skills yet to attempt
it, I can say it sure is fun to watch the guys prepare for
it starting on Saturday evening when they get the schedule,
and then watch each flight as it unfolds first thing Sunday
morning. And this year they did it in a 15-20 mph cross
wind. Avoiding a zero seems top priority and each flyer did
a great job. I'm hoping to give it a shot next year. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans
MS"">Jeff Worsham <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
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[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>james woodward via NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 23, 2014 6:30 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Don Ramsey; General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Unknowns<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Don - looks like a good challenge.
Can you describe how this was done? Was this a special
round open to everyone, or was this for one class? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jim <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 7:18 AM, Don
Ramsey via NSRCA-discussion <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
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wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Want
to see the Unknowns they flew in Albuquerque last
weekend? Looks like a difficult sequence. I’ve got
it posted on the contest page at </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Don</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Ford via
NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 08, 2014 6:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> w d; General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snaps</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hard
to believe no discussion on a snap thread…that's a
first. <o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
watched the French Connection video with interest
since they were very much at the top of the airshow
list at around the time I was into full-scale
aerobatics. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We
always figured that FC was able to pull off the
"snap-on-the-deck" stunt because of the CAP-10's
airfoil, which was closer to a glider airfoil than
to an acro airfoil. Hence the deep wallow before the
autorotation that results in the displacement of the
flight path…to their advantage in this case. They
used to do the two-plane formation snap on take-off,
which always impressed me to no end.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">If
you watch Patty Wagstaff do a snap, with a thin,
fully-symetrical airfoil and added full-span stall
strips, her snaps become virtually identical to the
FAI "twinkle snap". A Pitts S-1 is somewhere in
between. The Citabria, needing full "con" ailerons,
will pause for a split second, then autorotate in a
flash with surprisingly little displacement. So 10
different planes will all autorotate differently,
some imperceptibly. Accordingly, many full-scale
pilots snap with ailerons "pro" instead or with the
traditional ailerons "con". Heck, most full-scale
competitors get 10's on spins and they are literally
flying/slipping the plane down the spin…never having
stalled at all. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">So
for pattern, if it slows down for a micro-second,
and the tail describes a cone, I call it good, even
though I still can't do it that well myself...<o:p></o:p></p>
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Sep 7, 2014, at 1:25 PM, w d via
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">well
since masters is know taking on traditional
FAI maneuvers" rollers and such".. the twinkle
snap will become the standard in AMA ...I will
be doing one in the upline snap from now on...<o:p></o:p></p>
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Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Chuck Hochhalter
via NSRCA-discussion <<a
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Well
Don, that really didn't fire up a lot of
enthusiastic discussion. I guess after
Nats it's don't ask don't tell.<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">C<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Sep 6, 2014, at 6:28 PM, <a
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target="_blank">flyintexanmark@gmail.com</a>
via NSRCA-discussion <<a
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style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Very
revealing. Thanks Don.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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From: "Don Ramsey via
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Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Snaps<br>
Date: Sat, Sep 6, 2014 3:57 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
just watched CPLR and Mayer doing
snaps on video. The entire video is
their snaps. If you are interested,
here’s the link <a
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target="_blank">http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1443881&page=2</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">about
half way down the page. A good
exercise is to watch both videos and
record your thoughts. Then get a thin
piece of straight wire and overlay the
track of the models when they snap.
See if your views change. The ability
to replay a short segment is a help.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Especially
watch the snaps at 1:40 for CPLR and
about 2:00 for Mayer. What do you
think? Note the post just after
Mayer’s video.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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