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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I am quite certain the #14 Cobra is a misprint…it should read ½ rolls….which is what the diagram shows.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>My participation does not go back to the days before retracts….but I’d be very surprised if the two roll loop was 2 integrated rolls.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>Dave<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Gayer via NSRCA-discussion<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 19, 2014 12:35 AM<br><b>To:</b> NSRCA Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2015 proposed sequences<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Advanced and Masters are not our entry classes and should not affect future participation. Those new to pattern should begin in either Sportsman or Intermediate depending on skill level. When a flyer feels he is ready to move up, he will try flying the next class in practice. If it is too difficult to even see a way to fly that sequence reasonably, then that pilot was not ready to move up and should stay in his current class another year (or more). We do not lose people because they stayed in their current class, we lose them because they moved up when not ready and find they are outclassed without the vision, coordination, time to practice (or name your reason) to be competitive. Not competitive for winning, just competitive. <br>Both Masters and Advanced can, and probably will be, changed next year. Any substantial problems can be addressed then. Many have tested these sequences. All have have flown them successfully, if not always happily. We can go on and on about ugly maneuvers, difficulty levels and dislike of change but that happens every cycle. <br><br>Just for comparison here are Advanced and Masters from 20 years ago. Overall both appear somewhat easier than the current sequences we are flying but not a lot. Total KFactors are a bit lower. Also we are flying many of the same maneuvers. I hope you noticed the knife edge top of the cobra in masters. If you go back even further you can find a two roll loop in the days before retracts...<br><br>John Gayer<br><br><br><img width=340 height=546 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CFBB47.9D3FA5E0"><img width=358 height=427 id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image002.jpg@01CFBB47.9D3FA5E0"><o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>