<div dir="ltr">In the equation of participation and sequence design, I would not over-weight the "develop skill for FAI" component. People that want to fly F3A will self-identify and do so without regard for for the process to get them there, IE< the AMA classes do not make F3A flyers, F3A flyers recognize somewhere along the way that they want the challenge and just go for it. Perhaps the best enabler to trying F3A is just knowing that migration to/from Masters is possible, in case time/practice/etc. change...<div>
<br></div><div>The most important people are not the "what-if/newbie" candidate, but rather the people that are currently flying and dedicated to the sport (local field presence, practice, mentoring/coaching others, and contest travelers). Keep the current lot happy and they can "bring another" pilot with them, upset the current batch, and it becomes a triple negative threat… A strong goal of leadership should be to retain ALL current and perhaps, recapture "past" pattern pilots...</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>0.02 cents.</div><div>Jim W.</div><div>(planning for the D3 champs contest in November). </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 7:14 AM, Whodaddy Whodaddy via NSRCA-discussion <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">K factors should be rethought .. An eight point role with my Phoenix 8 is alot different than with my current 2 meter .. Its like flying a gift now days other than centering of the maneuver yet retains the same or close to the same k factor as many years past... Food for thought...<br>
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Once again the current proposed pattern needs fixed or the numbers will dwindle by at least one nxt year.. I can promise that..<br>
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> On Aug 18, 2014, at 11:34 PM, John Gayer via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Advanced and Masters are not our entry classes and should not affect future participation. Those new to pattern should begin in either Sportsman or Intermediate depending on skill level. When a flyer feels he is ready to move up, he will try flying the next class in practice. If it is too difficult to even see a way to fly that sequence reasonably, then that pilot was not ready to move up and should stay in his current class another year (or more). We do not lose people because they stayed in their current class, we lose them because they moved up when not ready and find they are outclassed without the vision, coordination, time to practice (or name your reason) to be competitive. Not competitive for winning, just competitive.<br>
> Both Masters and Advanced can, and probably will be, changed next year. Any substantial problems can be addressed then. Many have tested these sequences. All have have flown them successfully, if not always happily. We can go on and on about ugly maneuvers, difficulty levels and dislike of change but that happens every cycle.<br>
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> Just for comparison here are Advanced and Masters from 20 years ago. Overall both appear somewhat easier than the current sequences we are flying but not a lot. Total KFactors are a bit lower. Also we are flying many of the same maneuvers. I hope you noticed the knife edge top of the cobra in masters. If you go back even further you can find a two roll loop in the days before retracts...<br>
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