<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div class="" style="">My NATS ED predecessor (Arch Stafford) recommended the unknowns be generated prior to the NATS to avoid a late-night scramble on Wednesday to generate the aresti diagrams. In hindsight this was wise advice. This year we had a rain delay on Wednesday afternoon that had the potential to wreak havoc on the Thursday Finals, so my stress level was up slightly already ;)</div><div class="" style=""><br></div><div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">Also, the <span style="background-color: transparent;">FAI rules state that the unknowns must be provided to the finalists 12 hours prior to the start of the
unknown flights:</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;" class=""><span class="" style=""><br class="" style=""></span></div><div style="background-color: transparent;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal;" class="">5G.1. (partial) "</span><span style="background-color: transparent;" class="">The composition of any unknown schedule shall be completed no less than </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; background-color: transparent;" class="">12 hours before the commencement of finals flights for unknown schedules."</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 10pt; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida
Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; background-color: transparent;" class=""><br class="" style=""></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; background-color: transparent;" class="">and the rules also state:</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 10pt; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;" class=""><br></div><div style="background-color: transparent;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"
class="">"</span><span style="background-color: transparent;" class="">5G.5. Aresti drawings of the unknown schedules must be provided to finalists and judges."</span></div><div class="" style=""><br class="" style=""></div><div class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="">The rules are not clear on whether or not the aresti diagrams are included in the 12 hour rule.</div><div class="" style=""><br></div><div class="" style="">Bob Kane<br class="" style="">getterflash@yahoo.com</div><div class="" style=""><br class="" style=""></div> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=""> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""> <div dir="ltr" class="" style=""> <hr size="1" class="" style=""> <font size="2" face="Arial" class="" style=""> <b class="" style=""><span style="font-weight:bold;"
class="">From:</span></b> jonlowe--- via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br class="" style=""> <b class="" style=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">To:</span></b> Jim Woodward <jimwoodward89@gmail.com>; Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org> <br class="" style=""> <b class="" style=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">Sent:</span></b> Friday, August 1, 2014 9:02 AM<br class="" style=""> <b class="" style=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Unknowns<br class="" style=""> </font> </div> <div class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><div id="yiv7602425493" class="" style=""><style class="" style="">#yiv7602425493 #yiv7602425493 --
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<div dir="ltr" style="font-family:'Calibri', 'Segoe UI', 'Meiryo', 'Microsoft YaHei UI', 'Microsoft JhengHei UI', 'Malgun Gothic', 'sans-serif';font-size:12pt;" class=""><div class="" style="">Jim,</div><div class="" style="">The unknowns are computer generated, and checked by a human for sanity. Bob had worked out 4 unknowns before hand, only known to him. Two were drawn from a hat the night before they were to be flown, and were handed out as darkness fell.</div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="">I don't know how many he generated to get those four, but I heard last year 15 or so were gone thru prior to the two being selected. </div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="">Jon<br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" style=""><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="">Sent from
Windows Mail</div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div></div><div class="" id="yiv7602425493yqt10616" style=""><div style="padding-top:5px;border-top-color:rgb(229, 229, 229);border-top-width:1px;border-top-style:solid;" class=""><div class="" style=""><font face=" 'Calibri', 'Segoe UI', 'Meiryo', 'Microsoft YaHei UI', 'Microsoft JhengHei UI', 'Malgun Gothic', 'sans-serif'" style="line-height:15pt;letter-spacing:0.02em;" class=""><b class="" style="">From:</b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="" style="">Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion</a><br clear="none" class="" style=""><b class="" style="">Sent:</b> Friday, August 1, 2014 7:35 AM<br clear="none" class="" style=""><b class="" style="">To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect"
ymailto="mailto:donramsey@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:donramsey@gmail.com" class="" style="">Don Ramsey</a>, <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="" style="">Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion</a></font></div></div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div dir="" class="" style=""><div dir="ltr" class="" style="">Hi Don - looking forward to seeing you again, perhaps next year's Nats. What is the practice for the determining the Unknowns now? Are these sequence put together day-of, or are the complete sequences worked out ahead of time? The aresti format is a nice addition.<div class="" style="">
<br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="">Thanks,</div><div class="" style="">Jim W.</div></div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""><div class="" style="">On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Don Ramsey via NSRCA-discussion <span dir="ltr" class="" style=""><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="" style="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none" class="" style="">
<blockquote class="" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;"><div lang="EN-US" class="" style=""><div class="" style=""><div class="" style=""><div class="" style=""><div class="" style=""><div class="" style=""><div class="" style=""><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I was just updating my website and checked a couple of links. There is links to the unknowns flown in 2006 and those flown in 2014 on the contest results page in the NATS history. Interesting to see the difference in difficulty. Select the results for the year and the link is at the top next to the year.<span class="" style=""><font color="#888888" class="" style=""><u class="" style=""></u><u class="" style=""></u></font></span></span></div>
<span class="" style=""><font color="#888888" class="" style=""></font></span><div class="" style=""><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><u class="" style=""></u> <u class="" style=""></u></span></div><div class="" style=""><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Don<u class="" style=""></u><u class="" style=""></u></span></div>
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