<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>It's an etherial experience and it's quite individual <br><br>Jon Bruml<div>Techstyles Sportswear</div></div><div><br>On Jul 30, 2014, at 7:14 PM, Chris Moon via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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Hi guys, let me jump in and just say that pattern flying is a hobby
and a lot like golf a lot of people like having the latest and
greatest as a matter of personal satisfaction rather than need and
that is ok, it's not a reflection on what is required to succeed in
the event. Some get a lot of pleasure owning a new Oxai plane every
year just because and some like seeing how well they can do on a
small budget and these are side issues to the event and completely
unrelated to how well someone will place in a contest. Can an ugly
stik win advanced at the NATS, I'm sure not, but most any hand me
down 2 meter in the right hands with practice and some coaching most
certainly can. I would even argue that the intermediate pilot who
buys the latest / greatest FAI plane design is at a distinct
disadvantage in his class as those planes are optimized for
maneuvers that are not in any AMA class and is probably more
difficult to fly overall than an older design would be. The extra
side area and canalizers are great for rolling loops etc but can
make things more challenging in a plain old crosswind doing a simple
cuban eight. My point is that there is a fallacy that a newer
design will benefit everyone in every class, when the opposite might
well be true. However, if someone likes having the latest and
greatest in intermediate or whatever class because they like nice
stuff, go for it because it's a hobby in the end and however you get
satisfaction is up to you. A 5-6 year old design will most
certainly be competitive.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/30/2014 6:42 PM, Del R via
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<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Hit send to
early.. Meant to type if I return to precision aerobatics it
is with the expectation of investing in a new bird and all new
equipment that will not need any upgrade for 5 or 6 years..
Maybe I am deluding myself to have such expectations. Course I
know some go through 2 or more airplanes a season.. That was
never me due..</font></div>
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black"><b>From:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true" title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">Chuck
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true" title="plane.gary@cox.net" href="mailto:plane.gary@cox.net">Gary Switala</a> ; <a moz-do-not-send="true" title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General
pattern discussion</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 30,
2014 3:47 PM</div>
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[NSRCA-discussion] Advanced Maneuvers for 2015</div>
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<div>Setup makes pattern easier, a poorly setup plane avg or
state of the art is still a poor setup plane. But, I contend
it will still be capable of flying the maneuvers in the
advanced sequence.</div>
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<div>There is nothing g in any of the new sequences that needs
anything more than what was required in last years sequences.</div>
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On Jul 30, 2014, at 2:43 PM, Gary Switala via NSRCA-discussion
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<p class="MsoNormal"> Average is more than just the
equipment and time given to practice. Critiquing from a
good knowledgeable coach is a must. Some of us do not
have this luxury. You can practice all you want and
think you’re great, but without proper critiquing you’ll
be in for a shock at a contest. You also have to look at
the setup of the plane, Motor thrust, up, down, right,
left? Wing incidence, proper placement of the battery,
act. Then there’s the proper trim, and this done in
combo with getting the proper setup working to get the
trim perfect. Now we move on to the radio. With the
plane trimmed we still, in some cases, need to have the
radio manipulate our inputs to hide unwanted
characteristics. This is Mixing. Sometimes this goes
well and sometime it does not and takes time. Then the
Expo and DR, and when and how and what percentages to
set them up in the radio to work to your advantage. In
some cases we move back and forth with Thrust, weight
balance, adding weight to a wing panel and so on. Not
plug and play. Setting up the ESC also not plug and
play. Prop choices APC, Carbon what diameter what pitch,
etc. I’ve flown with some guys that don’t even know on
how to set up their timer on the radio. If you’re
flying an average plane and have all this worked out to
a 100% you have a killing plane. If you have a new out
of the box high dollar ARF and have only worked out some
or none of the described issues, you do not. <o:p></o:p></p>
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