<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>I misspoke it's an aesthetic experience <br><br>Jon Bruml<div>Techstyles Sportswear</div></div><div><br>On Jul 30, 2014, at 8:37 PM, John Gayer <<a href="mailto:jgghome@comcast.net">jgghome@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div>It's an etherial experience and it's quite individual <br>
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On Jul 30, 2014, at 7:14 PM, Chris Moon via NSRCA-discussion
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Hi guys, let me jump in and just say that pattern flying is a
hobby and a lot like golf a lot of people like having the
latest and greatest as a matter of personal satisfaction
rather than need and that is ok, it's not a reflection on what
is required to succeed in the event. Some get a lot of
pleasure owning a new Oxai plane every year just because and
some like seeing how well they can do on a small budget and
these are side issues to the event and completely unrelated to
how well someone will place in a contest. Can an ugly stik
win advanced at the NATS, I'm sure not, but most any hand me
down 2 meter in the right hands with practice and some
coaching most certainly can. I would even argue that the
intermediate pilot who buys the latest / greatest FAI plane
design is at a distinct disadvantage in his class as those
planes are optimized for maneuvers that are not in any AMA
class and is probably more difficult to fly overall than an
older design would be. The extra side area and canalizers are
great for rolling loops etc but can make things more
challenging in a plain old crosswind doing a simple cuban
eight. My point is that there is a fallacy that a newer
design will benefit everyone in every class, when the opposite
might well be true. However, if someone likes having the
latest and greatest in intermediate or whatever class because
they like nice stuff, go for it because it's a hobby in the
end and however you get satisfaction is up to you. A 5-6 year
old design will most certainly be competitive.<br>
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<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Hit send to
early.. Meant to type if I return to precision
aerobatics it is with the expectation of investing in a
new bird and all new equipment that will not need any
upgrade for 5 or 6 years.. Maybe I am deluding myself to
have such expectations. Course I know some go through 2
or more airplanes a season.. That was never me due..</font></div>
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font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true" title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">Chuck
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true" title="plane.gary@cox.net" href="mailto:plane.gary@cox.net">Gary Switala</a> ; <a moz-do-not-send="true" title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General
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30, 2014 3:47 PM</div>
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[NSRCA-discussion] Advanced Maneuvers for 2015</div>
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<div>Setup makes pattern easier, a poorly setup plane avg
or state of the art is still a poor setup plane. But, I
contend it will still be capable of flying the maneuvers
in the advanced sequence.</div>
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<div>There is nothing g in any of the new sequences that
needs anything more than what was required in last years
sequences.</div>
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On Jul 30, 2014, at 2:43 PM, Gary Switala via
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<p class="MsoNormal"> Average is more than just
the equipment and time given to practice.
Critiquing from a good knowledgeable coach is a
must. Some of us do not have this luxury. You can
practice all you want and think you’re great, but
without proper critiquing you’ll be in for a shock
at a contest. You also have to look at the setup
of the plane, Motor thrust, up, down, right,
left? Wing incidence, proper placement of the
battery, act. Then there’s the proper trim, and
this done in combo with getting the proper setup
working to get the trim perfect. Now we move on to
the radio. With the plane trimmed we still, in
some cases, need to have the radio manipulate our
inputs to hide unwanted characteristics. This is
Mixing. Sometimes this goes well and sometime it
does not and takes time. Then the Expo and DR, and
when and how and what percentages to set them up
in the radio to work to your advantage. In some
cases we move back and forth with Thrust, weight
balance, adding weight to a wing panel and so on.
Not plug and play. Setting up the ESC also not
plug and play. Prop choices APC, Carbon what
diameter what pitch, etc. I’ve flown with some
guys that don’t even know on how to set up their
timer on the radio. If you’re flying an average
plane and have all this worked out to a 100% you
have a killing plane. If you have a new out of the
box high dollar ARF and have only worked out some
or none of the described issues, you do not. <o:p></o:p></p>
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