<div dir="ltr">We routinely exceed 400 ft. as well.  I've tracked my plane via GPS and altimeter and taken it up to where the masters guys take the top of the box, it's slightly over 800 ft, which makes sense given the basic trig of a 60 degree top of box at 150M.<div>
<br></div><div>Peter+</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Patrick Harris via NSRCA-discussion <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Add a zero to 400 for those guys!<div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Bob Kane <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mkh39995@gmail.com" target="_blank">mkh39995@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">So will the sailplane people . . .</p><div><div>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">The IMAC boys will have a cow over the 400 foot rule. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">


On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I read the full text of their interpretation of the "special rule for model aircraft" last night, I think the potential impact to pattern is their attempt to reinforce the 400 foot altitude limit (with no radius considerations for full scale airports) and extend the full scale airport notification radius to 5 miles (from 3 that was in 91-57) to require notification of model aircraft activity.<div>




<br></div><div><br></div><div>Their absolute denial of goggle-based FPV (the pilot MUST always maintain LOS to their plane, it's not sufficient to have a spotter ready to take over) is going to create a lot of lawlessness in the FPV community but shouldn't impact pattern.</div>




</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 7:58 AM, SilentAV8R via NSRCA-discussion <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>




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    <div>Actually, the FAA is now prohibiting
      FPV of any kind.<br>
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<a href="http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-faa-is-trying-to-ban-first-person-view-drone-flights?trk_source=recommended" target="_blank">http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-faa-is-trying-to-ban-first-person-view-drone-flights?trk_source=recommended</a><br>





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<a href="http://www.faa.gov/news/press_releases/news_story.cfm?newsId=16474&cid=TW223" target="_blank">http://www.faa.gov/news/press_releases/news_story.cfm?newsId=16474&cid=TW223</a><br>
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<a href="http://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/uas/media/model_aircraft_spec_rule.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/uas/media/model_aircraft_spec_rule.pdf</a><br>
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        <div class="gmail_default">Gentlemen,</div>
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        <div class="gmail_default">This article was published
          in USA Today.  It doesn't really affect us as Pattern folk but
          it is something we should be cognizant of as well as be on the
          lookout at our local fields for.  The main thing is that the
          FAA is allowing FPV flight but not outside of visual range.
           I've seen many many people take their quad copters far beyond
          visual range.  Big fines can happen for sure.</div>
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