<div dir="ltr">There are several references to "rules for model aviation in the NAS already existing in section 91" (where the 400 foot rule exists) with the extended authorization of the modernization act to operations within 5 miles of an airport.<div>
<br></div><div>Peter+</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 4:48 PM, SilentAV8R <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Silentav8r@cox.net" target="_blank">Silentav8r@cox.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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    <div>I have read it twice now and I have not
      seen any specific mention of the "400-foot rule."  Can you cite
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      On 6/24/14, 10:47 AM, Peter Vogel wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">I read the full text of their interpretation of the
        "special rule for model aircraft" last night, I think the
        potential impact to pattern is their attempt to reinforce the
        400 foot altitude limit (with no radius considerations for full
        scale airports) and extend the full scale airport notification
        radius to 5 miles (from 3 that was in 91-57) to require
        notification of model aircraft activity.
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        <div>Their absolute denial of goggle-based FPV (the pilot MUST
          always maintain LOS to their plane, it's not sufficient to
          have a spotter ready to take over) is going to create a lot of
          lawlessness in the FPV community but shouldn't impact pattern.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote"><div class="">On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 7:58 AM,
          SilentAV8R via NSRCA-discussion <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>></span>
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              <div>Actually, the FAA is now prohibiting FPV of any kind.<br>
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                    On 6/24/14, 7:27 AM, Scott McHarg via
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                      <div class="gmail_default">Gentlemen,</div>
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                      <div class="gmail_default">This article was
                        published in USA Today.  It doesn't really
                        affect us as Pattern folk but it is something we
                        should be cognizant of as well as be on the
                        lookout at our local fields for.  The main thing
                        is that the FAA is allowing FPV flight but not
                        outside of visual range.  I've seen many many
                        people take their quad copters far beyond visual
                        range.  Big fines can happen for sure.</div>
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