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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>Hi Mike.. While I concede it has
rarely happened in the past but their have been repeated occurrences d/t
possible judge overload, Miss understanding of maneuver being flown etc. some
have earned positive scores when a zero was deserved. My gripe with the current
system especially at the NATS settings is when the lowest scoring judge is
look at with suspicion when they are they only one who catches a zero maneuver.
On the surface of the data it appears to be the bad judge. In actuality the
other judges missed the zero. Again Compromise. I accept it is never done
intentionally by anyone but when judges work harder than pilots it makes me
question the system that is at times rewarding the wrong apple. Now I'm fairly
confident in the overall scheme of average flying over the season the
consistently best pilot is still truly the one who wins most often. My issue is
the lack of acknowledgment by those that control the direction of P.A. at times
are willing to throw out the baby with the bath water. The drive to
constantly make maneuvers more complex to challenge the pilots is rarely
evaluated to what it does to the people that are required to become familiar
with the constantly changing schedule depending on which class they are to be
called on to judge. Some have had to judge 3 and in rare cases 4 other classes
besides the one they are flying in. That isn't ideal either. With
everything being purely voluntary and some have to leave part way through
without judging skews the load. In the past some would even show up late to
register to attempt to avoid judging at all. If judging has become that
difficult then the community should be taking a hard look at how fledgling
pilots in the lower classes handle and accept those challenges. While some can
accept it quite readily others are not so adept. Do we slam the door on
their desire to compete and attend more contests. I have never seen the
community reverse any of it major changes when it has hurt attendance. The
priority is always for the betterment of FAI pilots in the WORLDS. While those
are admiral goals of the organization my contention is if they want to encourage
participation they need to change some of their priorities a little.
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial> Del</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=drmikedds@sbcglobal.net href="mailto:drmikedds@sbcglobal.net">Dr.
Michael Harrison, DDS</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'General pattern
discussion'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 29, 2014 3:14
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Bakersfield Bashscores areon the NSRCA website...</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">and
data we are picking may not be the right data or we are throwing away
good data and possibly picking the wrong competitor,,,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Del
R<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 29, 2014 12:47 PM<BR><B>To:</B> General
pattern discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Bakersfield Bash
scores areon the NSRCA website...<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Mike..
Over the years many of the negative down sides have been repeatedly pointed
out regarding using the current system and while I truly concur with your
opinion the ruling part sees nothing wrong with throwing away some rounds
which is against the very attribute they contend to support. If the overall
best average pilot shows up each round and does their best then they would
secure their place. Belittling any judges work manning the chair by throwing
away their work is counter-productive to the hard work they put in with
their calibrated eyeballs. It is all about what is an acceptable compromise.
In a perfect world all judges would be focused and catch every zero but when
the maneuvers are as complex as they have become it is a daunting task for new
pilots to master let alone feel comfortable about advancing to the point they
have to man the chair to compete. The sport has become so complex one
needs professional caller and when you have maintaince issues to tend to while
having to go man the chair makes it less than desirable. Maybe that is why
many are glad to have the choice of throwing one of their flights away.
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
Del</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=drmikedds@sbcglobal.net href="mailto:drmikedds@sbcglobal.net">Dr.
Michael Harrison, DDS</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'General pattern
discussion'</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Tuesday, April
29, 2014 11:51 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Bakersfield Bash scores areon the NSRCA
website...<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">My
2-1=1 cents, There is no perfect scoring system. The system used
at bakersfield regresses back to winning with a " BarnBurner score" on the
last flight of the contest and this suffers the dilemma of becoming the
popularity contest we used to deal with. Normalizing normally rewards
the consistently best pilot, however there are always exceptions and extreme
examples to the contrary. This holds true in all competitive events of
any type. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I
believe where we fall short today is that we throw away too much data.
Examples would be dropping the high and low score of each flight,
dropping the worst flight at a contest, counting only 4 flights of contests
with more than 4 flights, throwing away previous flights at major events,
ie. eliminating the prelims scores at major events,
etc.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">With
the reliability of all our equipment and the technology present today, we
should do more to retain more of the judging we have
done.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">More
and more is being done via various methods(TBL, dropping high and low
scores, dropping worst flights, etc) to create an "average score" which is
erroneously considered the best most fair score. I believe this is a
mistake. I believe we should keep the high and low scores, the worst
flights, whatever. We don't really have the statistical data to do TBL
properly, in my opinion, it should be eliminated. It definitely has an
adverse affect on the judges ability to do his job.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I
believe we should work to keep much more data. I believe we can create
systems to do that. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">On
another note, I believe this is one really good contest, would love to have
been there. Probably the premier "local" contest of the
nation.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Mike
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>On Apr 29, 2014, at 8:19 AM, <A
href="mailto:ronlock@comcast.net">ronlock@comcast.net</A>
wrote<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Ron
Lockhart<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">From:<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">"Mark Atwood" <<A
href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com">atwoodm@paragon-inc.com</A>><BR><B>To:<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></B>"General pattern discussion"
<<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><BR><B>Sent:<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></B>Tuesday, April 29, 2014 2:01:04
AM<BR><B>Subject:<SPAN class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></B>Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Bakersfield Bash scores are on
the NSRCA website...<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">It does
not normalize the rounds. One round can be worth more than another.
Easy vs hard judges, calm vs windy conditions, etc. Especially
with throw aways it's critical that all the round have the same "value".
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">That
said, I can see an interest in normalizing to the average score, rather than
to the top score. It minimizes some of the variance when a key flyer
doesn't fly the round either due to a problem or simply choosing not to fly
after winning the first 4 rounds. Particularly in that last scenario,
it makes the remaining rounds much more valuable to the 2nd and 3rd place
flyers. <BR><BR>Sent from my average intelligence
phone<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><BR>On Apr 28, 2014, at 8:27 PM,
"Peter Vogel" <<A href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com"
target=_blank>vogel.peter@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Well,
it's normalization of a sort, in that it's a percentage of perfect within
each class, so a 984 in Intermediate and a 984 in Sportsman mean the same
thing, you flew 98.4% of the perfect score (no, I haven't seen a score
that high! :-) <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Overall
though, I don't like the dynamic of it. It's very clear when you
have a highly critical set of judges, everyone pretty much drops that
round. Normalization to best is definitely a superior way for people
to see how they are doing relative to the best pilot in the round for a
particular set of judges, regardless of how critical (or not) they happen
to be. An interesting experiment, but I wouldn't recommend it for
future contests.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Peter+<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">On Mon,
Apr 28, 2014 at 7:08 PM, John Gayer<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN><<A
href="mailto:jgghome@comcast.net"
target=_blank>jgghome@comcast.net</A>><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">It is a
misnomer to call what was used normalization. It is actually a reversion
to the pre-normalization scoring scheme of yesteryear. The only difference
from the old days is that by "normalizing" to a perfect score, you can
immediately see the average raw score per maneuver.<SPAN
style="COLOR: #888888"><BR><SPAN
class=hoenzb>John</SPAN></SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">On
4/28/2014 6:15 PM, Anthony Romano wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt">
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">So
why the change in normalization?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Anthony<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014
17:04:28 -0700<BR>From:<SPAN class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com"
target=_blank>vogel.peter@gmail.com</A><BR>To:<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=_blank>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR>Subject: Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Bakersfield Bash scores are on the NSRCA
website...<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Final
data from the contest is also available here:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><A
href="http://www.patternscoring.com/560"
target=_blank>http://www.patternscoring.com/560</A>, the per-contestant
report is considerably richer than what you get on<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A href="http://nsrca.us/"
target=_blank>nsrca.us</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I
also just completed an analysis of what would have happened if we'd
normalized to best instead of to perfect, the only class where it would
have made a difference in final placement was FAI Silver (MP15) where
Jon's win in one round and 2nd place rounds were closer to Sean's scores
than Dale's 2nd place rounds would have put him about 30 points over
Dale.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Peter+<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">On
Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Peter Vogel<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN><<A
href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com"
target=_blank>vogel.peter@gmail.com</A>><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">That's not the scoring
program, the XML says "Prelim", "1", "2" for the flight number, but the
web server's transformation is showing it as "1", "2" and
"0".<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Peter+<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">On
Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Derek Koopowitz<<A
href="mailto:derekkoopowitz@gmail.com"
target=_blank>derekkoopowitz@gmail.com</A>><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Everyone,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">The
NSRCA website is back up and running again... our host was doing some
maintenance on the server. The scores for the Bakersfield
contest have been posted and just to let everyone
know...<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">1.
Every score is normalized to PERFECT, not to best
pilot<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">2.
Every AMA class flew 2 final rounds on Sunday using
unknowns<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">3.
Best 3 of 4 prelim rounds were AVERAGED to produce a SINGLE
round score to carry over into the finals.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">4.
Best 2 of 3 (prelim carry over + 2 final rounds = 3) count for
the final score.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">In FAI F,
Prelim carry over is shown as Round 1, Round 2 is first finals round,
and round 3 is the 2nd final round -- for some reason the scoring
program is showing that as round
0.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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Clara County Model Aircraft Skypark<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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