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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle22><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Think
about where that would place the entry and exit lines on something like a Cuban
eight, double Immelman, horizontal hourglass horizontal triangle circle etc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle22><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I don’t
think we want to go there.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Jim<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]>&nbsp;<![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle22><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]>&nbsp;<![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Earl Haury<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, April 08, 2014 6:18
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
>From the Judges Chair</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><![if !supportEmptyParas]>&nbsp;<![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>It
would sure be more clear if 5B.8.3 wording was “maneuvers are<strong><b>
preceded</b></strong> and <strong><b>followed</b></strong>” by a horizontal
line...... thereby making them clearly required, but “outside” the actual
maneuver. </span></font><font size=4 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Earl</span></font><font
size=4 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:whitesmoke'><b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:derekkoopowitz@gmail.com" title="derekkoopowitz@gmail.com">Derek
Koopowitz</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:whitesmoke'><b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>
Tuesday, April 08, 2014 5:24 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:whitesmoke'><b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'General pattern discussion'</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:whitesmoke'><b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:black'> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] From the Judges Chair<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:
Arial;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I
don</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Arial Unicode MS"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS";mso-ascii-font-family:
Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:#1F497D'>’</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>t think you can
leave off the input radius because the input radius size will change where
center is located.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jas S<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, April 08, 2014 3:15
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
&gt;From the Judges Chair<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I've always enjoyed that pattern had
definition (centers, box...) and that's why I don't fly IMAC but once a year if
at that. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>If the start
of the 9 is at the bottom 1/4 loop (minus entry line),<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>and the end
is at the end of the 3/4 loop (minus the exit line),<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>and the
bottom and top radii are equal (as are the entry and exit lines),<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>wouldn't the
center be the start of the bottom loop/middle of roll/top of 3/4 loop/finish of
3/4 loop?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>On Tue, Apr
8, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Daniel Underkofler &lt;<a href="mailto:underdw@gmail.com"
target="_blank">underdw@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:40.8pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt'><font
size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>Thank you!&nbsp; My thoughts exactly<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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12.0pt;margin-left:40.8pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:40.8pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt'><font
size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 4:02 PM, John Gayer &lt;<a
href="mailto:jgghome@comcast.net" target="_blank">jgghome@comcast.net</a>&gt;
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:45.6pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt'><font
size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>Derek,<br>
&quot;Somewhere in the 3/4 loop portion&quot; is awfully vague and unjudgeable.
I could buy anywhere in the 3/4 loop portion but not somewhere.<br>
The center you are describing would appear to be affected somehow by the entry
and exit lines of the maneuver as per your description in the March K-Factor. I
don't see that. This maneuver(figure 9) could be described as a single loop
with a straight vertical line between the first quadrant and the last three
quadrants. What rolls occur do not affect that basic shape. That places the
center of the maneuver at the initial pullup into a quarter loop just as it
would for a simple loop. The apex of the 3/4 loop would also be on the
centerline and so would the return to level flight at the exit.<br>
As far as the straight line entry and exit being somehow offset, I don't see
that either. The entry line ends at the quarter loop pullup and exit line
begins upon completion of the 3/4 loop. Those two points should form a vertical
line. I see that as the maneuver centerline as well.<br>
It's certainly true that the aresti shows the wrong center and it is certainly
true that the sub-committee chair has the last word but he should be using a
better word than &quot;somewhere&quot;.<br>
John<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>On 4/8/2014 3:22 PM, Derek Koopowitz wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Anthony,</span></font><font
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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>This
shouldn</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Arial Unicode MS"><span
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color:#1F497D'>’</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>t be confusing at
all</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Arial Unicode MS"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS";mso-ascii-font-family:
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color:#1F497D'>…</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> the center of the
maneuver is the middle point between the start and end of the maneuver.&nbsp;
How much more simple can it get?&nbsp;&nbsp; The statement that the </span></font><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Arial Unicode MS"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial Unicode MS";mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:
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size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'>middle should be somewhere in the </span></font><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Arial Unicode MS"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial Unicode MS";mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:
Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>¾</span></font><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'> loop portion</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face="Arial Unicode MS"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS";
mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:
"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>”</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>
is correct </span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Arial Unicode MS"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS";mso-ascii-font-family:
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color:#1F497D'>–</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> depending on the
size of the </span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Arial Unicode MS"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS";mso-ascii-font-family:
Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:#1F497D'>¾</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> loop which must
match the radius of the </span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face="Arial Unicode MS"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS";
mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:
"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>¼</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>
loop from horizontal to vertical when the maneuver starts.&nbsp; That center
portion will change for every pilot as each pilot will fly it differently.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Your
comment about </span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Arial Unicode MS"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS";mso-ascii-font-family:
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color:#1F497D'>“</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>many outside the US</span></font><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Arial Unicode MS"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial Unicode MS";mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:
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size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'> isn</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face="Arial Unicode MS"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS";
mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:
"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>’</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>t
accurate </span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Arial Unicode MS"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS";mso-ascii-font-family:
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color:#1F497D'>–</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> if they see it
differently then they are incorrect.&nbsp; The clarification I got is straight
from the F3 sub-committee chair</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face="Arial Unicode MS"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS";
mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:
"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>…</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Anthony Romano<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, April 08, 2014
11:27 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
>From the Judges Chair</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>Would
love to see a review of maneuver 13 of the Finals sequence. In the March
Kfactor the center was described as &quot;should be the middle of the maneuver
somewhere in the </span></font><font color=black face="Arial Unicode MS"><span
style='font-family:"Arial Unicode MS";mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:
Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black'>¾</span></font><font
color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri;color:black'> loop portion.&quot;
While the many outside the US see it that the loop is centered and the Aresti
in the latest FAI sporting code show the upline being centered.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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bit confusing,</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>Date:
Tue, 8 Apr 2014 09:28:00 -0700<br>
From: <a href="mailto:joncarter60@comcast.net" target="_blank">joncarter60@comcast.net</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] From the Judges Chair</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>Hey
guys - we got an excellent suggestion from the group for last month's article
so I thought I would ask again! Anyone have a burning maneuver or judging
question? Just let me know.</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>Jon
Carter</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>Judging
Committee Chairman</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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