<html>
<head>
<style><!--
.hmmessage P
{
margin:0px;
padding:0px
}
body.hmmessage
{
font-size: 12pt;
font-family:Calibri
}
--></style></head>
<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Airtronics SD-10. Nothing changed but the battery and the throttle cut is once again lower than the brake engagement by A/C response. I checked my notes on the transmitter setup and the only thing I did not write down is the % setting for brake and throttle cut. All other items are written down. I will see if the program is the same tomorrow.<br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 16:08:35 -0600<br>From: jgghome@comcast.net<br>To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Castle ESC question - problem solved????<br><br>
Mike,<br>
What's the radio? Has it had a s/w update recently?<br>
Would recommend that your throttle cut position is at least as low
as the lowest setting you can acheive with idle switching and the
trim lever. Keep in mind that doing this may require you to toggle
throttle cut in the event of a low voltage cutoff in order to
restore throttle authority but you will never fail to arm when you
turn on with the throttle cut active.<br>
John<br>
<div class="ecxmoz-cite-prefix">On 4/9/2014 3:04 PM, Michael Cohen
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote cite="mid:BLU171-W47B31CC64CA32FC6736E6CA06A0@phx.gbl">
<style><!--
.ExternalClass .ecxhmmessage P {
padding:0px;
}
.ExternalClass body.ecxhmmessage {
font-size:12pt;
font-family:Calibri;
}
--></style>
<div dir="ltr">OK, the problem is solved, but not the mystery
behind the settings change.....
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I have an idle down set that engages the brake on landing
and a throttle cut that won't let the motor respond at all
until it is disengaged. These are on separate switches. My
normal start up sequence is plug in, listen for the proper
Castle music, turn off the brake, disengage the throttle cut,
spin the motor up, and take off.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I put a normal servo on the throttle, replacing the ESC and
tried a couple of different combinations of brake and throttle
cut on/off. The throttle cut position was NOT lower than the
brake. Also, the brake moved more when toggled between the
two positions than I thought it would. I did notice that with
brake on though and throttle cut off, the trim was at the
lowest position.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I hooked up the ESC again an plugging in the batteries with
the normal starting positions (brake on, throttle cut on), the
ESC did not arm. I turned off the throttle cut and this time
left the brake on. The trim went to the lowest position and
the ESC armed. I was able to spin th motor. The throttle cut
did not stop the motor if it was already spinning, although
throttle did not respond. With the brake switch off, the idle
was quite high. This was not the way things were at the end
of the last season. I lowered the % throw for the brake and
throttle cut until I got the settings where I wanted them to
be and all is back to "normal" now, including my start up
sequence. The mystery is, why did it change in the first
place?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The only difference between this season and last season was
I replaced the airplanes battery system with a redundant one
and replaced the NiMh battery in the TX with a LiPo.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thoughts?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards,</div>
<div>Mike C</div>
<div><br>
<div>
<hr id="ecxstopSpelling">From: <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com">atwoodm@paragon-inc.com</a><br>
To: <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 15:59:01 -0400<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Castle ESC question.<br>
<br>
What he said :)
<div><br>
<div>
<span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;orphans:2;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px;">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word;"><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;border-spacing:0px;">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word;">
<div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;">
<div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;orphans:2;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family:'Arial Black', sans-serif;color:rgb(89, 89, 89);">Mark
Atwood
</span><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:'Arial Black', sans-serif;color:rgb(89, 89, 89);"> </span></div>
<div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;orphans:2;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">Paragon Consulting, Inc.</span></b><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"> </span><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">|</span></b><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"> President
</span></div>
<div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;orphans:2;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">5885 Landerbrook Drive Suite
130, Cleveland Ohio, 44124</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"> </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div>
<div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;orphans:2;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">Direct: 440.229.2502 </span><b><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">|</span></b><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"> Fax: 440.684.3102</span><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(19, 81, 243);"> </span><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"> </span><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div>
<div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;orphans:2;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"><a href="http://www.paragon-inc.com/" style="color:purple;" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;">www.paragon-inc.com</span></a> </span></div>
<div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;orphans:2;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div>
<div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;orphans:2;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="color:rgb(49, 132, 155);"><br class="ecxApple-interchange-newline">
<span><img id="ecx8435A4C5-76BF-4124-800C-B21E67F6F717" src="cid:part2.06060602.08050500@comcast.net" height="24" width="188"></span><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;orphans:2;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;display:inline !important;"> </span>
</span></div>
</div>
</div>
</span></div>
</span></div>
<br>
<div style="">
<div>On Apr 9, 2014, at 3:39 PM, David Harmon <<a href="mailto:k6xyz@sbcglobal.net">k6xyz@sbcglobal.net</a>>
wrote:</div>
<br class="ecxApple-interchange-newline">
<div>
<style><!--
.ExternalClass p.ecxMsoNormal, .ExternalClass li.ecxMsoNormal, .ExternalClass div.ecxMsoNormal {
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
}
.ExternalClass a:link, .ExternalClass span.ecxMsoHyperlink {
color:#0563C1;
text-decoration:underline;
}
.ExternalClass span.ecxMsoHyperlinkFollowed {
color:#954F72;
text-decoration:underline;
}
.ExternalClass p {
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
}
.ExternalClass span.ecxEmailStyle18 {
font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:#1F497D;
font-weight:normal;
font-style:normal;
}
.ExternalClass .ecxMsoChpDefault {
font-size:10.0pt;
}
.ExternalClass div.ecxWordSection1 {
}
--></style>
<div lang="EN-US">
<div class="ecxWordSection1">
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D;">Try moving the
idle trim all the way down</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
<div>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D;"> </span></b></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D;"> </span></b></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D;">David Harmon</span></b></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D;">Sperry, OK</span></b></p>
</div>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
<div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;">
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";">
<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Cohen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 9, 2014 2:33
PM<br>
<b>To:</b> NSRCA<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [NSRCA-discussion] Castle
ESC question.</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="line-height:15.95pt;"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";background:white;">I
brought my airplane out of its winter
hibernation today and simply went to test
the airplane with some new batteries. I
have not changed any ESC or radio settings
since the end of the last season. When I
released the throttle cut/safety switch
and went to spin the motor, nothing
happened. </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="line-height:15.95pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="line-height:15.95pt;"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";background:white;">In
more detail: I plugged in ESC and got the
normal spark. The ESC </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";background:white;">played
the Castle power tune, counted 10 cells,
but does not play the arming tune. </span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";background:white;">Setting
the throttle to full (with a restrained
plane of course) did yield additional
beeps, but did not ever spin the motor. I
don't see any troubleshooting on the
Castle website, hence the post.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="line-height:15.95pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="line-height:15.95pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";">If
I do plug the ESC into the castle link
controller to double check settings,
does the motor have to be unplugged? I
have shrink wrapped the bullets for the
motor/ESC connection together and would
rather not separate them. I will remove
the prop, of course.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="line-height:15.95pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="line-height:15.95pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";">Regards,</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="line-height:15.95pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";">Mike
Cohen</span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
_______________________________________________<br>
NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
<a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></div>
</div>
<br>
</div>
<br>
_______________________________________________
NSRCA-discussion mailing list
<a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>
<a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></div>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<fieldset class="ecxmimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
<br>
<pre>_______________________________________________
NSRCA-discussion mailing list
<a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>
<a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></pre>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>_______________________________________________
NSRCA-discussion mailing list
NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</div>                                            </div></body>
</html>