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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Just 3 weeks ago I made an order to HK through PP and cancelled it a couple of days later.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>I got on the HK live chat and got the refund done.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>I received the credit from PP on my VISA promptly.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>David Harmon<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>AMA 5053<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>NSRCA 586<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Sperry, OK<o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Hank Pajari<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 8, 2014 3:21 PM<br><b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Hobby King Arcus F3A Biplane<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Update, PayPal got me my money back. Never heard from Hobbyking. &nbsp;Will probably buy from them again since they have good quality batteries and motors.<br><br>Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Apr 6, 2014, at 5:31 PM, Peter Vogel &lt;<a href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com">vogel.peter@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Wasn't it on this very list that we were recently decrying the loss of local hobby shops? &nbsp;Why would anyone support the worst of the hobby shop predators for anything but batteries (and if you could find equivalent performance + weight as the Zippy Compacts I'd wonder why even batteries)?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 5:01 PM, &lt;<a href="mailto:hankpajari@aol.com" target="_blank">hankpajari@aol.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Hi guys <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I ordered one of these right after the thread started, first week of March. &nbsp;I didn't notice that the shipping was $65 so I cancelled the order. &nbsp;Unfortunately when I ordered I used PayPal and Hobby King was paid. &nbsp;Hobby King acknowledged the cancellation of the order but has not refunded my $183. &nbsp;I have filed a complaint with PayPal and have emailed Hobby King at least 4 times but they ignore me. &nbsp;I am pretty sure I will eventually get my money back but buyer beware. &nbsp;Your mileage may differ.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Hank<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Robert L. Beaubien &lt;<a href="mailto:rob@koolsoft.com" target="_blank">rob@koolsoft.com</a>&gt;<br>To: General pattern discussion &lt;<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Sent: Sun, Apr 6, 2014 4:03 pm<br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Hobby King Arcus F3A Biplane<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>FYI, these are in stock in the US now.&nbsp; $149 prices, but if you go to page and wait, you will get offer for $138.&nbsp; Shipping around $35.&nbsp; Just ordered mine now.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='margin-left:.5in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;Robert Beaubien<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:.5in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;Sr. Software Architect<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:.5in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;Kool Software LLC<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:.25in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:.25in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&quot;No trees were harmed in the sending of this message, however a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a> [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org?" target="_blank">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert L. Beaubien<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:48 PM<br><b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Hobby King Arcus F3A Biplane<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I just went to order one.&nbsp; Did you actually pay the $76+ shipping on the plane out of China, or did you get it from a different warehouse?&nbsp; I think I’ll wait for it to be available in a US warehouse.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='margin-left:.5in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;Robert Beaubien<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:.5in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;Sr. Software Architect<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:.5in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;Kool Software LLC<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:.25in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:.25in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&quot;No trees were harmed in the sending of this message, however a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a> [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Matthew Finley<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:58 AM<br><b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Hobby King Arcus F3A Biplane<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I ordered one to play with yesterday. My guess is the servos may need replaced due to poor centering, but it's a pretty cool plane to mess around with after a pattern meet in the evenings. <br></span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br><br><b><i>Matthew E. Finley</i></b><br><br>Key-Note Piano Tuning and Service<br><a href="tel:%28614%29272-2604" target="_blank">(614)272-2604</a> Business<br><a href="tel:%28614%29557-3846" target="_blank">(614)557-3846</a> Cell<br><a href="mailto:Key_note_piano@yahoo.com" target="_blank">Key_note_piano@yahoo.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From: <a href="mailto:rob@koolsoft.com" target="_blank">rob@koolsoft.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 16:42:44 +0000<br>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Hobby King Arcus F3A Biplane<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Does anyone have any experience with one of these?&nbsp; Thinking of adding it to my collection.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__51280__Arcus_F3A_Aerobatic_Biplane_EPO_1000mm_PNF_.html" target="_blank">http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__51280__Arcus_F3A_Aerobatic_Biplane_EPO_1000mm_PNF_.html</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F4E79'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;Robert Beaubien<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F4E79'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;Sr. Software Architect<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Aria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