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From: Michael Cohen &lt;precisionaero@hotmail.com&gt;<br>

To: NSRCA &lt;nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org&gt;<br>

Sent: Mon, Apr 7, 2014 5:04 am<br>

Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Hobby King Arcus F3A Biplane - Practice Plane<br>

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<div dir="ltr">I thought I would steal this thread to talk about practice pattern planes. &nbsp;As I expect work commitments will keep me busy this contest season, where 2M practice time will not be as bountiful as it should be, I have been looking for a 3 to 4 cell sized plane to fly out in front of the house that can reasonably fly the Masters pattern. &nbsp;There are not many 3 cell planes out there and I tried a Wingsmaker Sunrise EP. &nbsp;It flies well can could perform the Sportsman and Intermediate, but it is not well suited to fly the Masters pattern. &nbsp;I was at the Toledo show and saw the 5/6 cell powered F3A Olympus by FMS. &nbsp;I have an FMS 1450mm P-51B and it flies great. &nbsp;Talking with a person at the show about the Olympus, he said 5 cells will fly the plane, but not the long up-lines needed for Masters. &nbsp;I don't want to invest in lightweight 6 cell batteries too, and its 1400mm span is a little big for the front yard. &nbsp;The representative told me a 4 cell, 1100mm wingspan version called the F3A Explorer, would be available in about 2 months. &nbsp;It should sell for $159.99 including everything but the main battery and the receiver. &nbsp;I am looking at several options for myself now, but thought people here might be interested in knowing what is out there. &nbsp;

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<div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: <a href="mailto:jeffclaire@cableone.net">jeffclaire@cableone.net</a><br>

To: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>

Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2014 20:59:25 -0600<br>

Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Hobby King Arcus F3A Biplane<br>

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<div class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:">Same thing happened to me. Went as far as the paypal login thinking it might change back to the $138 price at some point but never did. &nbsp;Bailed out as well. </span></div>



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<div class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a> [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org?">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>P &amp; A Hobbies<br>

<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 06, 2014 7:29 PM<br>

<b>To:</b> 'General pattern discussion'<br>

<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Hobby King Arcus F3A Biplane</span></div>

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<div class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">I’ve been looking at it for a while. Price dropped to $138.65 in Pop up while browsing on US warehouse.</span></div>



<div class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">So, added it.&nbsp; Click on view cart. shows full $149.31.</span></div>



<div class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">Shipping charge is $43.62 to Kansas.</span></div>



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<div class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">Customer service told me to try again in about half hour later. &nbsp;Might be a glitch?</span></div>



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<div class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">So far, tried twice.&nbsp; Both same result.</span></div>



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<div class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">One more time and I am done.</span></div>



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<div class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">Ihncheol</span></div>



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<div class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a> [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:hankpajari@aol.com">hankpajari@aol.com</a><br>

<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 06, 2014 7:02 PM<br>

<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>

<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Hobby King Arcus F3A Biplane</span></div>



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<div class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">I ordered one of these right after the thread started, first week of March. &nbsp;I didn't notice that the shipping was $65 so I cancelled the order. &nbsp;Unfortunately when I ordered I used PayPal and Hobby King was paid. &nbsp;Hobby King acknowledged the cancellation of the order but has not refunded my $183. &nbsp;I have filed a complaint with PayPal and have emailed Hobby King at least 4 times but they ignore me. &nbsp;I am pretty sure I will eventually get my money back but buyer beware. &nbsp;Your mileage may differ.</span></div>

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From: Robert L. Beaubien &lt;<a href="mailto:rob@koolsoft.com">rob@koolsoft.com</a>&gt;<br>

To: General pattern discussion &lt;<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>&gt;<br>

Sent: Sun, Apr 6, 2014 4:03 pm<br>

Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Hobby King Arcus F3A Biplane</span></div>



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<div class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">FYI, these are in stock in the US now.&nbsp; $149 prices, but if you go to page and wait, you will get offer for $138.&nbsp; Shipping around $35.&nbsp; Just ordered mine now.</span></div>

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<div class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a> [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org?">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert L. Beaubien<br>

<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:48 PM<br>

<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>

<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Hobby King Arcus F3A Biplane</span></div>

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<div class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">I just went to order one.&nbsp; Did you actually pay the $76+ shipping on the plane out of China, or did you get it from a different warehouse?&nbsp; I think I’ll wait for it to be available in a US warehouse.</span></div>

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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:58 AM<br>

<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>

<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Hobby King Arcus F3A Biplane</span></div>

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<b><i>Matthew E. Finley</i></b><br>

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Key-Note Piano Tuning and Service<br>

(614)272-2604 Business<br>

(614)557-3846 Cell<br>

<a href="mailto:Key_note_piano@yahoo.com">Key_note_piano@yahoo.com</a></span></div>

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<div class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">From: <a href="mailto:rob@koolsoft.com">rob@koolsoft.com</a><br>

To: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>

Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 16:42:44 +0000<br>

Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Hobby King Arcus F3A Biplane</span></div>

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