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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>I thought I would steal this thread to talk about practice pattern planes. As I expect work commitments will keep me busy this contest season, where 2M practice time will not be as bountiful as it should be, I have been looking for a 3 to 4 cell sized plane to fly out in front of the house that can reasonably fly the Masters pattern. There are not many 3 cell planes out there and I tried a Wingsmaker Sunrise EP. It flies well can could perform the Sportsman and Intermediate, but it is not well suited to fly the Masters pattern. I was at the Toledo show and saw the 5/6 cell powered F3A Olympus by FMS. I have an FMS 1450mm P-51B and it flies great. Talking with a person at the show about the Olympus, he said 5 cells will fly the plane, but not the long up-lines needed for Masters. I don't want to invest in lightweight 6 cell batteries too, and its 1400mm span is a little big for the front yard. The representative told me a 4 cell, 1100mm wingspan version called the F3A Explorer, would be available in about 2 months. It should sell for $159.99 including everything but the main battery and the receiver. I am looking at several options for myself now, but thought people here might be interested in knowing what is out there. <div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Mike Cohen</div><div>D4<br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: jeffclaire@cableone.net<br>To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2014 20:59:25 -0600<br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Hobby King Arcus F3A Biplane<br><br><style><!--
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--></style><div class="ecxWordSection1"><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";">Same thing happened to me. Went as far as the paypal login thinking it might change back to the $138 price at some point but never did. Bailed out as well. </span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";"> </span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";">jeff</span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";"> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>P & A Hobbies<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 06, 2014 7:29 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'General pattern discussion'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Hobby King Arcus F3A Biplane</span></p></div></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"> </p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">I’ve been looking at it for a while. Price dropped to $138.65 in Pop up while browsing on US warehouse.</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">So, added it. Click on view cart. shows full $149.31.</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Shipping charge is $43.62 to Kansas.</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Customer service told me to try again in about half hour later. Might be a glitch?</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">So far, tried twice. Both same result.</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">One more time and I am done.</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Ihncheol</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";"> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a> [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:hankpajari@aol.com">hankpajari@aol.com</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 06, 2014 7:02 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Hobby King Arcus F3A Biplane</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"> </p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;">Hi guys </span></p><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;">I ordered one of these right after the thread started, first week of March. I didn't notice that the shipping was $65 so I cancelled the order. Unfortunately when I ordered I used PayPal and Hobby King was paid. Hobby King acknowledged the cancellation of the order but has not refunded my $183. I have filed a complaint with PayPal and have emailed Hobby King at least 4 times but they ignore me. I am pretty sure I will eventually get my money back but buyer beware. Your mileage may differ.</span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;">Hank</span></p><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;">-----Original Message-----<br>From: Robert L. Beaubien <<a href="mailto:rob@koolsoft.com">rob@koolsoft.com</a>><br>To: General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>Sent: Sun, Apr 6, 2014 4:03 pm<br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Hobby King Arcus F3A Biplane</span></p><div id="ecxAOLMsgPart_2_3522e252-ddee-48d9-9275-f02cab72908b"><div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;">FYI, these are in stock in the US now. $149 prices, but if you go to page and wait, you will get offer for $138. Shipping around $35. Just ordered mine now.</span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><div style=""><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="text-indent:-.25in;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;">-</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> Robert Beaubien</span></p></div><div style=""><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="text-indent:-.25in;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;">-</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> Sr. Software Architect</span></p></div><div style=""><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="text-indent:-.25in;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;">-</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> Kool Software LLC</span></p></div><div style=""><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div style=""><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;">"No trees were harmed in the sending of this message, however a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced."</span></p></div></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a> [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org?">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert L. Beaubien<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:48 PM<br><b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Hobby King Arcus F3A Biplane</span></p></div></div></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;">I just went to order one. Did you actually pay the $76+ shipping on the plane out of China, or did you get it from a different warehouse? I think I’ll wait for it to be available in a US warehouse.</span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><div style=""><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="text-indent:-.25in;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;">-</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> Robert Beaubien</span></p></div><div style=""><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="text-indent:-.25in;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;">-</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> Sr. Software Architect</span></p></div><div style=""><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="text-indent:-.25in;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;">-</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> Kool Software LLC</span></p></div><div style=""><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div style=""><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;">"No trees were harmed in the sending of this message, however a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced."</span></p></div></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a> [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Matthew Finley<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:58 AM<br><b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Hobby King Arcus F3A Biplane</span></p></div></div></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><div style=""><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style=""><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;">I ordered one to play with yesterday. My guess is the servos may need replaced due to poor centering, but it's a pretty cool plane to mess around with after a pattern meet in the evenings. <br id="ecxFontBreak"></span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"><br><br><b><i>Matthew E. Finley</i></b><br><br>Key-Note Piano Tuning and Service<br>(614)272-2604 Business<br>(614)557-3846 Cell<br><a href="mailto:Key_note_piano@yahoo.com">Key_note_piano@yahoo.com</a></span></p></div><div><div class="ecxMsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><div style=""><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;">From: <a href="mailto:rob@koolsoft.com">rob@koolsoft.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 16:42:44 +0000<br>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Hobby King Arcus F3A Biplane</span></p></div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;">Does anyone have any experience with one of these? Thinking of adding it to my collection.</span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"><a href="http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__51280__Arcus_F3A_Aerobatic_Biplane_EPO_1000mm_PNF_.html" target="_blank">http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__51280__Arcus_F3A_Aerobatic_Biplane_EPO_1000mm_PNF_.html</a> </span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="text-indent:-.25in;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;">-</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F4E79;"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> Robert Beaubien</span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="text-indent:-.25in;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;">-</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F4E79;"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> Sr. Software Architect</span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="text-indent:-.25in;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;">-</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F4E79;"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> Kool Software LLC</span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;">"No trees were harmed in the sending of this message, however a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced."</span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p></div></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;"><br>_______________________________________________ NSRCA-discussion mailing list <a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a> <a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id="ecxAOLMsgPart_3_3522e252-ddee-48d9-9275-f02cab72908b"><pre style="background:white;"><tt><span style="color:black;">_______________________________________________</span></tt></pre><pre style="background:white;"><tt><span style="color:black;">NSRCA-discussion mailing list</span></tt></pre><pre style="background:white;"><tt><span style="color:black;"><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a></span></tt></pre><pre style="background:white;"><tt><span style="color:black;"><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></span></tt></pre></div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________
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