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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>What Andrew said about ARC's is very true but there is also more to it. On airplanes in this size range you are only looking at probably about a $25-$50 difference in cost to the manufacturer but the street price of an ARC has to be a fair amount lower then an ARF. When we were producing airplanes over seas I can tell you it was $50 difference on a 40% airplane and the street price had to be about $400 less for an ARC.<BR> <BR>I did also see that some of you have mentioned about having a U.S. produced airplane. In general, that would be very hard to do because material costs and labor are much higher then they are overseas. I think you could offer an airplane in a full kit version but to offer it as an ARF is probably not realistic. <BR> <BR>Kevin Young<BR><br> <BR><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: andrewjesky@gmail.com<br>Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 07:43:55 -0700<br>To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Osiris 47 inch wings needed<br><br><div>Most factories now a days don't really offer arcs as the chances of damage is much higher to the models as the open bay structures required to keep the weight down on the models really take a beating. Best case the factories will do single color covering which does sell well unfortunately.</div><div><br></div><div>Andrew <br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Feb 5, 2014, at 7:24 AM, Matthew Finley <<a href="mailto:rcfin02@msn.com">rcfin02@msn.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote><div>
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<div dir="ltr"><b>Heres a thought...... With the ARF kits there is a lot of time and money in the covering process..... If they would go back to making more ARC kits or nearly finished kits, that may help in that matter. I personally don't mind paying a little extra for the covering to be done for me. For me to cover a kit like they do would take me about 4 months or more..... <br id="ecxFontBreak"></b><br><br><i><b><font face="Arial">Matthew E. Finley</font></b></i><br><br>Key-Note Piano Tuning and Service<br>(614)272-2604 Business<br>(614)557-3846 Cell<br><a href="mailto:Key_note_piano@yahoo.com">Key_note_piano@yahoo.com</a><br><br><br><br><div><hr id="ecxstopSpelling">Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 07:44:47 -0500<br>From: <a href="mailto:underdw@gmail.com">underdw@gmail.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Osiris 47 inch wings needed<br><br><div dir="ltr">The 62" Osiris has been key to rebuilding pattern participation in the entry level class in the last few years in my area (Colorado/ New Mexico). It is important to be able to recommend a good flying plane that can be ready to fly for under $1000. Can't understand why 3DHS is bailing on this plane.<div>
<br></div><div>Dan</div></div><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br><br><div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Andrew Jesky <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andrewjesky@gmail.com" target="_blank">andrewjesky@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;"><div dir="auto"><div>Thanks guys for the good info, I really like the 47" Osiris as it has been said put together and throw on the car. The 62" is a tough size as I think it worked well for 5s5000's but pushed them hard. 6s5000's were a little big for it. I think maybe do another 5s size just a little smaller?</div>
<div><br></div><div>Andrew <br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Feb 4, 2014, at 5:06 PM, Anthony Romano <<a href="mailto:anthonyr105@hotmail.com" target="_blank">anthonyr105@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div>
<blockquote><div><div>Happy birthday Andrew!</div><div>Love to see what is lurking in your imagination. In winter I have been flying 47" stuff but would like to move up to 62" size. Plan on sharing 6s packs with my heli. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Anthony<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Feb 4, 2014, at 5:55 PM, "Andrew Jesky" <<a href="mailto:andrewjesky@gmail.com" target="_blank">andrewjesky@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>
</div><blockquote><div><div>I have an idea of what I'd like to design as far as plane but what do you guys think of size for it?</div><div><br></div><div>Andrew <br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Feb 4, 2014, at 3:52 PM, "Bill Harden" <<a href="mailto:flyinbill1@bellsouth.net" target="_blank">flyinbill1@bellsouth.net</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><blockquote><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Yes, Andrew designs extremely well flying airplanes. So I also hope he comes out with a pattern plane of his own. That would be just wonderful.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style='font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'>From:</span></b><span style='font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a> [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>kingconsulting<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 04, 2014 4:32 PM<br><b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Osiris 47 inch wings needed<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal">I have the same model but no extra wings sorry. They are not carrying the 47" anymore. I also heard no more 62" version either. I bought some extra wheel pants for the 47 and glad I did.<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal">I know Andrew Jesky is starting his own plane company not sure if that has something to do with it. I hope he comes out with a pattern plane of his own.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal">Robert King<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div>
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