<font color='black' size='2' face='arial'>the <font size="2">12fg has all the logic functions as the 12Z and 14MZ<br>
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From: John Gayer &lt;jgghome@comcast.net&gt;<br>

To: General pattern discussion &lt;nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org&gt;<br>

Sent: Fri, Nov 8, 2013 8:26 am<br>

Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Transmitter Programming Question<br>

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    Its in the 12Z as well but not needed here. Not sure about the 12FG.
    Although it looks like the 12Z, the software appears to have been
    degraded to support the price differential.<br>


    John<br>


    

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          the 14MZ came out</font>
        

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          From: Peter Vogel <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com">&lt;vogel.peter@gmail.com&gt;</a><br>


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<div>No logical switch function in futaba's? &nbsp;</div>


            

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<div>On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 8:21 PM, John Gayer <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:jgghome@comcast.net">jgghome@comcast.net</a>&gt;</span>
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<div>Don't use a mix.<br>


                  You need to determine first what the necessary channel
                  output value is to turn the glow on. <br>


                  Then set up your plug channel and use throttle
                  stick(J3?) as its input.<br>


                  In AFR, use a "POINT" curve to trigger the output
                  value you need at 15% throttle to turn glow on, you
                  have 9+ points available and I believe you can move
                  their x-coordinate as well.<br>


                  Then, for an ON/OFF switch use a dual rate on the plug
                  channel and the panel switch of your choice. You
                  should then be able to set up a second "POINT" curve
                  when the dual rate is active that has all values set
                  to something that will turn and keep the glow off.<br>


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                  I don't have a 12FG here to test this but it should
                  work fine.<br>


                  John<br>


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                <blockquote type="cite">OK. &nbsp;I think I understand. &nbsp;Pmix
                  the throttle to the channel the receiver controlled
                  switch is plugged into and use the throttle as the
                  Pmix switch. &nbsp;Yes?
                  

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<div>On Nov 7, 2013, at 8:28 PM, Jas wrote:</div>


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<div>Pmix throttle to glow plug and set the
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                            On Nov 7, 2013, at 9:04 PM, Ronald Van Putte
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<div>On Nov 7, 2013, at 8:01 PM, Phil
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<div> Yes, Ron, switch to JR and
                                      it's easy!!!&nbsp; lol<br>


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                                      On 11/7/2013 8:17 PM, Ronald Van
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                                        <pre>I am trying to turn on an onboard glow plug battery on an O.S. .61RF using a receiver controlled switch, so that the glow will be on when the throttle stick position is less than 15% or so and off above that.  I am drawing a blank on how to accomplish it.

I've used the throttle stick as a switch before to get dual rate rudder, but this is different.

I have a Futaba 12 FG transmitter and will be using a Futaba R617 receiver.

<b><big><big><big>Are there any useful suggestions out there?</big></big></big></b>

Ron Van Putte


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