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<font face="Arial">Larry, haven't been there in the winter months, but
trudging across snow in Glacier Nat. Park in July was enough for me --
getting to a still-frozen lake...</font>in JULY!!!<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Phil Spelt, KCRC Emeritus, Past President
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On 10/23/2013 6:10 PM, Larry & Eileen Fitch wrote:
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2" color="#000000">So I see you have
been there too. I remember waiting for the bus at 06:00 to ride to A1W
and the temp was 40 below zero, and there was a breeze as well.</font></div>
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<font face="Arial">And November, and February, and March, and
April, and...</font>lol<br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">In Idaho Falls, Idaho, in
December and January, you can push with a rope.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Just say'n</font></div>
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<div>And you can't push with a rope. <br>
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On Oct 23, 2013, at 12:16, "Patrick Harris" <<a
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<div dir="ltr">The formula for voltage drop is: Voltage Drop
= I times R
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<div>I = current in Amps</div>
<div>R = Resistance of the conductor in Ohms</div>
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<div>So for any given length of wire, the resistance will
increase as the size of the conductor deceases and the voltage will
drop for any given level of draw (amps). </div>
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<div>In other words in your case, lets say you put a load on
the circuit of a given length that draws x amount of amps, you will see
a voltage drop as the conductor size reduces (resistance increases). </div>
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<div>As the formula is stated, if you have no "current" draw,
you will have no voltage drop, but why would you have a circuit if you
didn't put a load on it? In other words the voltage will drop.</div>
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<div>This will calculate it for you.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 3:42 AM, Del
R <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:drykert2@rochester.rr.com"
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<div><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff">Ron .. I think you
are referring to current or amperage.. Voltage won't show a drop.. 14
gauge is a no no.. except for lighting basically.. Low current drain. </font></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">For a 120 VAC system, can anyone
tell me what the voltage drop will be over a give length of 10 gauge,
12 gauge and 14 gauge copper wiring?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ron</p>
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