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<div><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Bob,</FONT></div>
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<div>They don't need to be the same. But remember to also center the rolling elements on each leg, basis each leg length. All other rules (constant radii, constant roll rates, etc) apply</div>
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<div>Matt<br>
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From: Bob Moulder <cmoulder@optonline.net><br>
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Cc: nsrca-discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
Sent: Tue, Oct 1, 2013 7:22 pm<br>
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Master's sequence question<br>
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exit altitudes have to be the same?
I read the maneuver description and this is not mentioned as it is in
the other humpty descriptions which indicate they need not be the same.
I assume that they need not be the same since this maneuver provides an
opportunity for in/out track adjustment and probably also for
altitude... but there I go assuming things.
-- Bob
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> From: Derek Koopowitz To: General pattern discussion Cc: General
> pattern discussion Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] P15
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>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 11:11 AM, "<A href="mailto:DaveL322@comcast.net">DaveL322@comcast.net</A>" wrote:
>>
>> Hmmm....
>>
>> I am using more mah for P15 than P13 (and taking about 20 seconds
>> longer) and P13 was taking more mah than Masters.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint
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>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "John Ford" To: "General pattern discussion" Subject:
>> [NSRCA-discussion] P15
>> Date: Mon, Sep 30, 2013 10:41
>>
>>
>> I judged P-15 last month at Harry Ell's contest, and at Ft Scott last
>> week?
>>
>> Same observations?but also noticed that few were hitting and keeping
>> the 45's, and there's a lot of 45's.
>>
>> On the other hand, interesting to see that P-15 is almost
>> "equal-or-easier" than Masters (and consumes less battery), but that
>> the F-15 appears to be considerably more complex by comparison.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Chuck Hochhalter wrote:
>>
>>> Spent the weekend judging p-15.
>>>
>>> Interesting sequence, first maneuver sets up the next 3, pyramid is
>>> a geometric pain in the transmitter, square on corner easy to make
>>> the second leg too long because of the roll.
>>>
>>> Let the yapping begin.
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>>
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>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Jas wrote:
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>> Same here. And F15 is even longer
>>
>> iJason
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>>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 11:11 AM, "<A href="mailto:DaveL322@comcast.net">DaveL322@comcast.net</A>" wrote:
>>>
>>> Hmmm....
>>>
>>> I am using more mah for P15 than P13 (and taking about 20 seconds
>>> longer) and P13 was taking more mah than Masters.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
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>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>> From: "John Ford" To: "General pattern discussion" Subject:
>>> [NSRCA-discussion] P15
>>> Date: Mon, Sep 30, 2013 10:41
>>>
>>>
>>> I judged P-15 last month at Harry Ell's contest, and at Ft Scott
>>> last week?
>>>
>>> Same observations?but also noticed that few were hitting and keeping
>>> the 45's, and there's a lot of 45's.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, interesting to see that P-15 is almost
>>> "equal-or-easier" than Masters (and consumes less battery), but that
>>> the F-15 appears to be considerably more complex by comparison.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Chuck Hochhalter wrote:
>>>
>>>> Spent the weekend judging p-15.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting sequence, first maneuver sets up the next 3, pyramid is
>>>> a geometric pain in the transmitter, square on corner easy to make
>>>> the second leg too long because of the roll.
>>>>
>>>> Let the yapping begin.
>>>>
>>>> Chuck
>>>>
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> Well, Dave, the essential salaries of our "congressmen" would NOT get
> shut down! They don't earn the $191.000/yr they get when congress is
> in session and "functioning", so why deny them when the government is
> shut down?
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> On 9/30/2013 11:53 AM, Dave Burton wrote:
>>
>> I'm having trouble seeing the downside of a Govt. shutdown. Perhaps
>> they would run all essential stuff and shut down the non essential
>> stuff!
>>
>> Naaah, that wouldn't happen, probably the other way around.
>>
>> *From:* <A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>
>> [<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org?">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>] *On Behalf Of
>> *Ronald Van Putte
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2013 10:08 AM
>> *To:* General pattern discussion
>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] nsrca shutdown???
>>
>> No, the downwind turn is easier to understand and makes more sense.
>>
>> BTW, all those in favor of having the salaries of all members of
>> Congress and their staffs suspended until they get the job done, say,
>> "Aye".
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Randy Forbus wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Is this the same as the government shut down?
>>
>>
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>> From: <A href="mailto:vanputter@gmail.com">vanputter@gmail.com</A> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 09:53:23 -0500
>> To: <A href="mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com">mups1953@yahoo.com</A> ; <A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A> Subject:
>> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] nsrca shutdown???
>>
>> Or the downwind turn.
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 8:56 AM, mike mueller wrote:
>>
>> What we need is a discussion on snap rolls. That'll wake everyone
>> up. Mike
>>
>> Mike Mueller
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>> *From:* Gordon Seeling >
>> *To:* <A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2013 6:59 AM
>> *Subject:* [NSRCA-discussion] nsrca shutdown???
>>
>>
>> toooo quiet!!!
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