<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>@ Mark....had to do something, you're not selling raffle tickets anymore. : )<div><br><br><hr id="zwchr"><b>From: </b>"Mark Atwood" <atwoodm@paragon-inc.com><br><b>To: </b>"General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, September 13, 2013 11:41:27 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Intermediate Question - Two 1/2 rolls, Opposite<br><br>Suck up. There must be a contest coming up… OH yeah, district champs :):):):)<br><br>I agree with Ken though…and me…lol. Any length is ok. BUT CENTER IT!!!<br><br><br>Mark Atwood<br>Paragon Consulting, Inc. | President<br>5885 Landerbrook Drive Suite 130, Cleveland Ohio, 44124<br>Direct: 440.229.2502 | Fax: 440.684.3102<br>www.paragon-inc.com<http://www.paragon-inc.com/><br><br><br>[cid:image001.png@01CE481F.E6A56C70]<br><br>On Sep 13, 2013, at 11:26 AM, "S. McNickle" <nelson_jett@comcast.net<mailto:nelson_jett@comcast.net>> wrote:<br><br>One of the best judges I fly in front of, Mark Atwood, told me "It just needs to be there". An immediate reversal wouldn't show a pause and also would be darn near impossible to center. Most of us seem to be late on this one so I try to start early and roll out before I really think I need to.<br><br>________________________________<br>From: "Ihncheol" <pnahobbies@sbcglobal.net<mailto:pnahobbies@sbcglobal.net>><br>To: "Larry Diamond" <ldiamond@diamondrc.com<mailto:ldiamond@diamondrc.com>>, "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org>><br>Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 11:17:36 AM<br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Intermediate Question - Two 1/2 rolls, Opposite<br><br>Larry,<br>Since the manuever descriptions doesn't specify the length/time, there isn't specific length of hesitation.<br>However, I wouldn't stay long since it is down wind with Humpty bump with option is following.<br>I usually try to keep it no longer than a second for the hesitation.<br><br>Ihncheol<br><br><br>Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note® II<br><br><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Larry Diamond <ldiamond@diamondrc.com<mailto:ldiamond@diamondrc.com>><br>Date: 09/13/2013 9:31 AM (GMT-06:00)<br>To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org>><br>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Intermediate Question - Two 1/2 rolls, Opposite<br><br><br>How long does the pause at inverted need to be.<br><br>If I roll inverted and then roll upright in the opposite direction, is it assumed there was a pause because it is natural in 1/2 rolls in opposite directions; or, must there be a lengthy hesitation?<br><br>It's been awhile since I've flown in a contest... 2010 with a Zen 50 (only two contest that year); prior to that was 2007 w/ a 2M plane...<br><br>As I recall the length of pause is not a downgrade. However, being a spectator at a contest earlier this year I noted many Intermediate pilots with a very long pause, almost or likely an inverted flight segment in the manuever as the length of inverted seemed much more than just a pause perhaps a second or so.<br><br>Inverted segment must be centered. For scoring, if I roll early to inverted, I must hold the same length on the other side of center so that the inverted segment is centered. Not a questioning this...<br><br>Probably should have clarified this prior to the day before a contest... LOL<br><br>Larry Diamond<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<br>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</div></div></body></html>