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<P>It's done. Not a bad job for the 2013 T&C non-power 3rd row 60/40 folding seats.</P>
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<P>For those wanting details -</P>
<P>With seats stowed, lift both flaps that cover hinge joint area.</P>
<P>Remove two small-ish Philips head screws that help hold plastic decorative molding.</P>
<P>At front side of molding, find barely enough room to see into crevice for four about one</P>
<P>inch round black plastic barrel shapes that are part of a clip assembly. (3 are easy to see)</P>
<P>Chrysler says use "trim stick C-4744" to disengage the 4 clips. I used a large flat blade</P>
<P>screwdriver. Clips that pop off are a black plastic nut that well fall into the well.</P>
<P>See four 15mm socket head gray bolts, oriented straight down. Remove them.</P>
<P>Raise seats to upright position, but do not unfold seats. </P>
<P>See four 15mm socket head black bolts,oriented to front of vehicle. Remove bolts. </P>
<P>Each seat will now lift out individually. </P>
<P>As you lift seats, front legs of the seat will pop out, and make process awkward.</P>
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<P>Off to make a plywood well cover. Ron Lockhart</P>
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<P><B>From: </B>ronlock@comcast.net<BR><B>To: </B>"General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR><B>Sent: </B>Thursday, August 29, 2013 10:54:30 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Re Chrysler T&C 3rd row seat removal?<BR><BR></P>
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<P>Yes- idea is total removal, and use resulting space for storage.</P>
<P>Ive seen that done in a Sienna and an Odyssey - but not a T&C or Caravan yet.</P>
<P>Looking for thoughts such as Earl's to ease the process - or scare me into</P>
<P>having a professional do it. <G></P>
<P>Ron Lockhart</P>
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<P><B>From: </B>"Earl Haury" <ejhaury@comcast.net><BR><B>To: </B>"General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR><B>Sent: </B>Thursday, August 29, 2013 10:36:33 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Re Chrysler T&C 3rd row seat removal?<BR><BR></P>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>I’ve done this on other vehicles. Typically the hinge bolts are under the carpet or upholstery . Be aware that at least one hinge will be equipped with a fairly strong spring to offset the seat weight when stowing. Be sure to control it during bolt removal so as not to get smacked by something.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=ronlock@comcast.net href="mailto:ronlock@comcast.net" target=_blank>ronlock@comcast.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 29, 2013 9:03 AM</DIV>
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<P>Hi All,</P>
<P>I want to remove the non-power 3rd row folding rear seats from a 2013 T&C.</P>
<P>I think T&C or Caravan models 2008 and later would be same/similar.</P>
<P>Anyone have any experience doing that?</P>
<P>Any comments on getting them out appreciated.</P>
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<P>Thanks, Ron Lockhart</P></DIV>
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