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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ron, is this a replacement for the van that you and Dave have been driving …..:>) Jay<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>ronlock@comcast.net<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 01, 2013 10:42 AM<br><b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Re Chrysler T&C 3rd row seat Removed<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>It's done. Not a bad job for the 2013 T&C non-power 3rd row 60/40 folding seats.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>For those wanting details -<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>With seats stowed, lift both flaps that cover hinge joint area.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Remove two small-ish Philips head screws that help hold plastic decorative molding.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>At front side of molding, find barely enough room to see into crevice for four about one<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>inch round black plastic barrel shapes that are part of a clip assembly. (3 are easy to see)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Chrysler says use "trim stick C-4744" to disengage the 4 clips. I used a large flat blade<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>screwdriver. Clips that pop off are a black plastic nut that well fall into the well.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>See four 15mm socket head gray bolts, oriented straight down. Remove them.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Raise seats to upright position, but do not unfold seats. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>See four 15mm socket head black bolts,oriented to front of vehicle. Remove bolts. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Each seat will now lift out individually. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>As you lift seats, front legs of the seat will pop out, and make process awkward.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Off to make a plywood well cover. Ron Lockhart<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br><br> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center id=zwchr></span></div><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="mailto:ronlock@comcast.net">ronlock@comcast.net</a><br><b>To: </b>"General pattern discussion" <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, August 29, 2013 10:54:30 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Re Chrysler T&C 3rd row seat removal?<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Yes- idea is total removal, and use resulting space for storage.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Ive seen that done in a Sienna and an Odyssey - but not a T&C or Caravan yet.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Looking for thoughts such as Earl's to ease the process - or scare me into<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>having a professional do it. <G><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Ron Lockhart<o:p></o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center id=zwchr></span></div><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>"Earl Haury" <<a href="mailto:ejhaury@comcast.net">ejhaury@comcast.net</a>><br><b>To: </b>"General pattern discussion" <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, August 29, 2013 10:36:33 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Re Chrysler T&C 3rd row seat removal?<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Ron</span><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I’ve done this on other vehicles. Typically the hinge bolts are under the carpet or upholstery . Be aware that at least one hinge will be equipped with a fairly strong spring to offset the seat weight when stowing. Be sure to control it during bolt removal so as not to get smacked by something.</span><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Earl</span><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:ronlock@comcast.net" target="_blank" title="ronlock@comcast.net">ronlock@comcast.net</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> Thursday, August 29, 2013 9:03 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> [NSRCA-discussion] Re Chrysler T&C 3rd row seat removal?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I want to remove the non-power 3rd row folding rear seats from a 2013 T&C.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I think T&C or Caravan models 2008 and later would be same/similar.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Anyone have any experience doing that?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Any comments on getting them out appreciated.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks, Ron Lockhart<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>