<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">BS = Bachelor of Science or maybe Brilliant Student or maybe Bright Star. Hmmm, I wonder what BS could be?<div><br></div><div>Ron</div><div><br><div><div>On Aug 22, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Tom Stennis wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div dir="auto"><div>Ron</div><div>You are the top level for age but no one comes close to you for BS you will hold the record forever<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:12 PM, Ronald Van Putte <<a href="mailto:vanputter@gmail.com">vanputter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Yes, sonny, I do. However, Don Lowe and Ron Chidgey still dabble in pattern, so I can't claim to BE the oldest pattern pilot around these days.<div><br></div><div>Ron</div><div><br><div><div>On Aug 21, 2013, at 1:44 PM, Keith Hoard wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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<div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a title="vanputter@gmail.com" href="mailto:vanputter@gmail.com">Ronald Van Putte</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:41 AM</div>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Amnesty idea</div></div></div>
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think I'm about the oldest pattern pilot around these days, so I feel well
qualified to comment. I can't fly as well as I used to, partly
because I can't see as well as I used to, despite four eye surgeries to
try to correct the problems. That being said, I will continue to fly in
the Master class for two reasons. First, I have seen many Advanced class
pilots perform and most of them would beat me too. Second, I occasionally
do beat a fellow Master class pilot or two and it brings me great satisfaction.
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<div><span> I know a lot of guys who have been coming to just about
every contest for years who have never broken into the top half of their
classes.</span></div>
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don't seem to care about standings and like flying in their classes. That's OK
as long as they participate and have fun doing it.</span></div>
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honestly didn't know the rules were in place to accommodate our fliers. So
while it's a nice debate it's somewhat moot.</span></div>
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that I know this rule I will be telling guys about it because I feel
many do not know.</span></div>
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all for the insightful input. </span></div>
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<div class="yiv4538334643MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">I
suspect the main reason for this discussion is to allow our aging pilots to
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<div class="yiv4538334643MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">How
many CDs out there and/or competitors would object to a masters pilot as an
example moving down to advanced because he can't see well enough to continue
flying masters.</span></div>
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<div class="yiv4538334643MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">I
for one would not. I would rather they continue to compete rather than hang it
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<div class="yiv4538334643MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Perhaps
those pilots that move down could disqualify themselves from District
championship contention and/or trophy consideration for local contest (i.e.,
they would be flying for fun).</span></div>
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[<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:ronlock@comcast.net">ronlock@comcast.net</a><br><b>Sent:</b>
Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:51 PM<br><b>To:</b> Bob Kane; General pattern
discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Amnesty
idea</span></div></div></div>
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<div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: black">I suspect that
may have been the case. I think the rule is support for the peer
pressure that</span></div>
<div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: black">generally
works well. I hope the new wording of "should move" doesn't erode the
system. If the class</span></div>
<div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: black">system goes
away....do we then call it a pattern fly in?
<VBG></span></div>
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<div style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: black">From: </span></b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: black">"Bob Kane" <<a href="mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com">getterflash@yahoo.com</a>><br><b>To:
</b>"General pattern discussion" <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br><b>Sent:
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<div class="yiv4538334643MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white"><span style="COLOR: black">This rule has been in place longer than I have been
flying pattern. There must have been some compelling reason to implement
it as the only thing that never changes is resistance to change.
There must have been some glaring examples of sandbagging going on.
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