<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>I agree!! All of these are good discussions, but lets stay focused on cheering our amazing team!!!!</div><div><br></div><div>This is what they need.</div><div><br></div><div>GO TEAM USA!!!!</div><div><br></div><div>Oscar</div><div><br></div><div><br>On Aug 19, 2013, at 9:05 PM, Larry Diamond &lt;<a href="mailto:webmaster@diamondrc.com">webmaster@diamondrc.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div><span></span></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"><div>I was trying to stay away from this topic... My concern is the focus for our team. They read this stuff... The last thing a competitor need to worry about are little distractions in any sport...especially how they are being judged and if it cost them...&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Mark's job is to keep them focused.... if there is an issue... I believe it is his role to manage it...</div><div><br></div><div>Mark is doing a great job... pilots need to stay focused and put the best flight up every time...</div><div><br></div><div>For that reason... Public opinions about scoring and and judging should wait till afterwards.</div><div><br></div><div>Just my .02</div><div><br></div><div>Larry Diamond</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-size:75%;color:#575757">Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S®4, an AT&amp;T 4G LTE smartphone</div></div><br><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: <a href="mailto:seefo@san.rr.com">seefo@san.rr.com</a> <br>Date: 08/19/2013  7:47 PM  (GMT-06:00) <br>To: General pattern discussion &lt;<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>&gt;,General pattern discussion &lt;<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>&gt;,"Robert L. Beaubien" &lt;<a href="mailto:rob@koolsoft.com">rob@koolsoft.com</a>&gt; <br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] World F3A contest <br> <br><br><div>You'd be wrong. There are several who are questioning what's going on from several different countries. <br>
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<font color="#888888"><font color="#888888">Sent from my android device.</font></font><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: "Robert L. Beaubien" &lt;<a href="mailto:rob@koolsoft.com">rob@koolsoft.com</a>&gt;<br>To: General pattern discussion &lt;<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>&gt;<br>Sent: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 5:39 PM<br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] World F3A contest<br><br></div>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ronald Van Putte<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 19, 2013 5:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] World F3A contest<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I don't agree. Valid complaints are just that. &nbsp;I was the U.S. judge in 1995 at Kasaoka and many of the judges verbally told the scribes what their scores were. &nbsp;I could could hear them and could not believe some of the scores I heard.
 &nbsp;It was like we were judging a different flight. &nbsp;There appeared to be an agenda that I was not privy to. &nbsp;The Prelims were bad enough, but scoring went off the chart BAD in the finals.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Aug 19, 2013, at 7:15 PM, Robert L. Beaubien wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Is this the right time to be complaining about the world judges?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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