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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>TBL, as applied in F3A, is done at the flight level, not the maneuver level. TBL will nullify the entire flight for the judge who is statistically higher or lower than the panel. So a pilot’s average flight score for a round may be based on 3 or 4 judges rather than 5.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The problem with the missed zero is still a problem, but it shouldn’t be attributed to TBL. When using “drop high/low” as done in the US F3A Nat’s the correct judge may very well be thrown out. Check out the FAI full scale solution here: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.exploit-design.com/AeroSoftware/FairPlay%20System%20explained%20v2a.pdf">http://www.exploit-design.com/AeroSoftware/FairPlay%20System%20explained%20v2a.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Scott<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Doug Cronkhite<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, August 18, 2013 9:13 PM<br><b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br><b>Cc:</b> General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] World F3A contest<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>The real problem with TBL is it assumes a very low score to be incorrect. A perfect example of thesis the last TOC. In the last unknown there was a maneuver with a 1 1/4 negative snap on a downline. Chip was flying and snapped the wrong direction, but being Chip, he snapped 1 3/4 turns, coming out on heading in the correct attitude, fooling all but 1 of the 10 judges, who correctly gave him a zero. That zero was nullified by TBL.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Bonus points if you know who the judge was...<br><br>-Doug<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Aug 18, 2013, at 4:50 PM, "Ryan Smith" <<a href="mailto:smaragdz@comcast.net">smaragdz@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>TBL are intials, standing for Tarasov, Bauer, Long; the people that came up with it. Below is an explanation scalped from a post/email that Derek Koopowitz wrote a while back.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The Tarasov-Bauer-Long (TBL) Scoring method has been around since the 1970's.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It has been used in the full size arena since 1978 and has been used at every full size IAC World Championship since 1980. The TBL method applies proven statistical probability theory to the judge's scores to resolve style differences and bias, and to avoid the inclusion of potential faulty judgements in contest results.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a> [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeff and Claire<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, August 18, 2013 6:47 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'General pattern discussion'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] World F3A contest</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>What does TBL stand for?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a> [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jon Lowe<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, August 18, 2013 3:54 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] World F3A contest</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>After all pilots fly in front of each set of judges on day 4 of prelims, I think. That would be part of the normalization process. At least that is how I remember it from previous WC's.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Jon</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: John Fuqua <<a href="mailto:johnfuqua@embarqmail.com">johnfuqua@embarqmail.com</a>><br>To: 'General pattern discussion' <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>Sent: Sun, Aug 18, 2013 4:40 pm<br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] World F3A contest</span><o:p></o:p></p><div id="AOLMsgPart_2_a2a2496b-ce38-4c11-adc2-eeb06634c7ba"><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>When do they do the TBL?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentColor currentColor'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a> [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org?">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jon Lowe<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, August 18, 2013 3:33 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] World F3A contest</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>A click on the Team USA logo on the NSRCA home page takes you to the Team USA website. That has a link to Cindy Wickhizer's page:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="https://2013worldsteamusa.shutterfly.com/" target="_blank">https://2013worldsteamusa.shutterfly.com/</a>, </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>which has been where Mark is sending info. He and I both previously announced that on this list.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Jon</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Gordon Seeling <<a href="mailto:gseeling@q.com">gseeling@q.com</a>><br>To: nsrca-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>Sent: Sun, Aug 18, 2013 2:35 pm<br>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] World F3A contest</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div id="AOLMsgPart_0_b1ff61d3-f217-4b9a-9feb-d7bc8e7cd8f1"><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>is there a computer man in the NSRCA ??if there is ,please post the </span></tt><o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>results on the nsrca web site, so rank & file will know what is going on.</span></tt><o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>_______________________________________________</span></tt><o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>NSRCA-discussion mailing list</span></tt><o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a></span></tt><o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></span></tt><o:p></o:p></pre></div></div></div></div></div><div id="AOLMsgPart_3_a2a2496b-ce38-4c11-adc2-eeb06634c7ba"><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>_______________________________________________</span></tt><o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>NSRCA-discussion mailing list</span></tt><o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a></span></tt><o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></span></tt><o:p></o:p></pre></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></body></html>