<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">What's so unusual about that? I do it all the time.<div><br></div><div>Ron</div><div><br><div><div>On Jul 12, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Jon Lowe wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><font color="black" size="3" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">
<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="background-color: transparent;">Of course, if the 1/4 rolls were opposite of each other, you'd also end up going the wrong direction! Doh!</font></div>
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<div style="color: black; font-family: arial,helvetica; font-size: 10pt;">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Jon Lowe <<a href="mailto:jonlowe@aol.com">jonlowe@aol.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Clown dance<br>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="background-color: transparent;">Here's the official description from the FAI rules:</font></div>
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<div align="LEFT">F-13.11 Clown Dance with ½ loop, inverted spin, 2½ turns, consecutive two ¼ rolls down</div>
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<div align="LEFT">From upright, pull through a ½ loop into a horizontal line, perform an inverted spin with 2½ turns, perform a vertical</div>
<div>downline, perform consecutively two ¼ rolls, pull through a ¼ loop, exit upright.</div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="3">Says nothing about direction of the 1/4 rolls vs. the spin direction, so that has to be optional. The description does not say the 1/4 rolls are opposite each other, so they are in the same direction. The aresti also shows them in the same direction.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="3">The rules also say this:</font></div>
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<div align="LEFT">Lines between consecutive part-rolls must be short and of equal length. Between consecutive</div>
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<div align="LEFT">continuous rolls or part-rolls in opposite direction there must be no line.</div>
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<div align="LEFT"><font face="Arial" size="3">So as I read it, since the part rolls are consecutive, they must have a line between them. Only if they were opposite would there be no line.</font></div>
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<div align="LEFT"><font face="Arial" size="3">Now Jon Carter will probably come into this and rip my analysis apart!!</font></div>
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Clown dance question in F13
Of course the first question should be who gave it that name and why.
Real question: Are the 2 1/4 rolls after the spin in the same
direction, opposite direction or does it matter? Should there be a
straight line between the rolls or instantaneous like the spin reversals?
Stuart C.
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