<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Good question. I can tell you it has not caught my attention, the "24.x" volts displayed by the charger seems to be constant. I will pay attention next time I charge and provide some feedback. When I charge 10 cells at 4 amps the charger is drawing 7 amps from the supply, it drops to less than an amp toward the end of the charge cycle.</span></div><div></div><div> </div><div>Bob Kane<br>getterflash@yahoo.com<br></div> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Jon Lowe <jonlowe@aol.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
getterflash@yahoo.com; nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, July 3, 2013 10:17 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Power Supplies<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv1447645481"><font color="black" size="3" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">
<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="background-color:transparent;">Love the description on Amazon. In one place is says "Power source: Air Powered". That I'd like to see. In anotherplace, it says it is "cooling by free air convection", yet it shows a fan!</font></div>
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<div>How stable is the voltage output at full load? One thing I've liked about the server PS's I've been using is that they are extremely stable between minimum and full load. I use the things day in and day out with many on-off cycles with nary a problem.</div>
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From: Bob Kane <getterflash@yahoo.com><br>
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
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<div><span>No handles and it was never intended for public display. But it does have a full enclosure and a green LED.</span></div>
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<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">The case does have a couple of threaded holes so it could be easily mounted in a charging box.</div>
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<div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Ronald Van Putte <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:vanputter@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vanputter@gmail.com">vanputter@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> General pattern discussion <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, July 3, 2013 9:55 AM<br>
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<div>Yeah, but does it have cool lights and a neat handle?
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<div>On the serious side, that's a great find. Let's see 15 amps at 24 volts is 360 watts. Charging two 5S packs at 4 amps at a nominal 20 volts per pack is only 160 watts, so the power supply should work for two 10S packs. </div>
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<div>BTW, I am using two Turnigy 10XC chargers in my charge
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<div>On Jul 3, 2013, at 6:48 AM, Bob Kane wrote:</div>
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<div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span>I have picked up two of these from Amazon:</span></div>
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<div style="background-color:transparent;"><span>"Dc 24v 15a Switching Power Supply Transformer Regulated", they are around $25. Working well so far. No modifications needed, but you do need to wire a power cord and charger leads.<br>
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<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>I use the Turnigy 10XC charger and usually charge at 4 amps. The charger draws 7 amps from the supply when charging a 10S pack so in theory I could run two chargers off this supply. </span></div>
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<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>I have also powered this setup from a cheapie 800 watt two-stroke generator a couple of
times, no issues yet.</span></div>
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<div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;">Bob Kane<br>
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<div>A lot of electric-power pilots are building or buying charge boxes. Many of
the charge boxes contain the <span class="yiv1447645481Apple-style-span" style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);">HP DL380 G4 </span><span class="yiv1447645481Apple-style-span" style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);">DPS-600PB 12V/</span><span class="yiv1447645481Apple-style-span" style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);">575W power supply. </span>
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<div><span class="yiv1447645481Apple-style-span" style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);">Since they are so inexpensive to acquire and so simple to convert for our use, I'd like to provide some information about them.</span></div>
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<div><span class="yiv1447645481Apple-style-span" style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);">These are so called "hot swap" power supplies. They are really tough and were designed to be used in a computer server 24/7.
Their output is 47 amperes at about 12.5 volts. You can use two in series to provide </span><span class="yiv1447645481Apple-style-span" style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);">47 amperes at about 25 volts.</span></div>
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<div><span class="yiv1447645481Apple-style-span" style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);">You can buy them at places like eBay for about $15 delivered if you shop around, particularly if you look for lots of two or three. These power supplies cost upwards of $300 when they were in active use, but the servers they were designed to work with have been retired, leaving a lot of these server power supplies as surplus. Consequently, you can get them pretty cheap. </span></div>
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<div><span class="yiv1447645481Apple-style-span" style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);">I usually show pilots with any measure of soldering skills how to convert them for our use. The conversion takes about 30 minutes. The rest, who can't solder or can't follow simple directions, I do the conversion for them.</span></div>
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<div><span class="yiv1447645481Apple-style-span" style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);">There is a great description how to do the conversion of the HP model DPS-600PB power supply here: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://sites.google.com/site/tjinguytech/my-projects/HP47A">https://sites.google.com/site/tjinguytech/my-projects/HP47A</a></span></div>
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<div><span class="yiv1447645481Apple-style-span" style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);">Any questions? E-Mail me
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<div><span class="yiv1447645481Apple-style-span" style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);">See you at the Nats.</span></div>
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