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<DIV>Not sure if my earlier post made the list or not. . .</DIV>
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<DIV>A portable (roll around) unit uses air from inside the room to blow over
the coils to cool the freon, then exhausts that hot air outside. This
creates a vacuum, sucking hot, humid air into the very room (or garage) you’re
trying to cool. I have a roll around in my garage and you can see / hear
the garage doors moving when you turn it on. It does cool the garage, but
takes a very long time and fills the water bucket several times per day.</DIV>
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<DIV>Personally, I’d recommend something else. . . window unit or the
split-level thingy . .</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=astropuppy@gmail.com
href="mailto:astropuppy@gmail.com">astropuppy</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 13, 2013 8:47 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Air Conditioned
Shop</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>This list sure is a great resource, before yesterday I didn't have
any idea there was such a thing as a "<SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)">Mini
Split Air conditioner".</SPAN>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="arial, sans-serif">Here's the low down on my
wife. She inspects laboratory's for a living and frequently mandates they be
cooler. Long story short she says a </FONT><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)">Mini
Split unit probably works better then a window or portable unit. And here I
thought I had married a bimbo. </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)">Bad
news is the cost comes out of the airplane budget.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face="arial, sans-serif">Mini Splits seem to be all the
rage on the web. Amazon has some lower priced units with good reviews
Here's 18,000 btu for $728 which puts cost inline with a large window unit. The
best solution for my shop would be a ceiling mount. </FONT><A
href="http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-Conditioner-Dehumidification-Ventilation-Installation/dp/B0095VAEOC/ref=pd_sim_sbs_hg_2/176-5609692-6728554">http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-Conditioner-Dehumidification-Ventilation-Installation/dp/B0095VAEOC/ref=pd_sim_sbs_hg_2/176-5609692-6728554</A></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Dave Burton <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:burtona@atmc.net"
target=_blank>burtona@atmc.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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did the ductless mini split heat pump in my 24 X 36 garage/shop too. It’s a
21,000 btu unit and works great in summer and winter. Total cost was about
$1,200.00 as I bought it on e-bay and did the installation myself. A hole the
size of a dryer vent in an outside wall and two pipes and a power cord were
all the cutting I had to do. Outside unit mounted on a concrete pad
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
target=_blank>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
target=_blank>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Keith Black<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:16 PM</SPAN></P>
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[NSRCA-discussion] Air Conditioned Shop<U></U><U></U></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>I put a Ductless Mini Split AC in my garage and it's been
awesome. Mine has a heat pump so it heats in the winter and cools in the
summer. It also keeps the humidity very low.<U></U><U></U></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>This needs to be installed and can't be rolled around, so
if that's OK it is an excellent solution.<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Look up "Mini Split Air conditioner" on google. I have a
Hitachi unit.<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Keith Black<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 4:16 PM, astropuppy <<A
href="mailto:astropuppy@gmail.com" target=_blank>astropuppy@gmail.com</A>>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Thanks Scott,<U></U><U></U></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>One of my obstacles is the garage doesn't have any windows.
NewAir told me their exhaust hose is 5.59" in diameter; I need to figure out a
way to go through the wall. I'm looking for a dryer type vent to put through
the wall.<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Pat, Real pattern pilots fly in wind, sissy's fly in
Oregon!<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Mike<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Scott McHarg <<A
href="mailto:scmcharg@gmail.com" target=_blank>scmcharg@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<U></U><U></U></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: blue">I
did just this for my....we'll call it "man-cave". It's a 2 car garage
and I used a 14,000 BTU portable unit from Lowe's. The worst part was
figuring out how to vent the unit. After looking at different
possibilities, I wound up cutting a hole for the tube and exhausting it out
the laundry room window as designed. It worked perfect and cools down
the 22' deep garage from regular closed garage temperatures in Southeast
Texas (read freakin hot and humid) to 75-78 in a few
hours.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: blue">Holler if you need more
info.....<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 4:00 PM, astropuppy <<A
href="mailto:astropuppy@gmail.com" target=_blank>astropuppy@gmail.com</A>>
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<P class=MsoNormal>I'm just going to throw this out. Does anybody have
experience using a portable (the kind that rolls around) Air Conditioner in
their shop? I'm trying to cool down a well insulated two car
garage.<U></U><U></U></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Mike<U></U><U></U></P></DIV></DIV>
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