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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Every good rant deserves a rebuttal.
      Here's mine.<br>
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      On 3/20/13 1:17 PM, Dave Lockhart wrote:<br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">The
            reason for that is some of the same &#8220;scientists&#8221; that
            (wrongly) touted global cooling in the 1970s are the same
            ones now (wrongly) preaching global warming.</span></p>
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    Which ones are those?? Got any examples?? I think you may have a
    mistaken impression of the state of scientific thought at the time
    as well as today. This is a good graphic.<br>
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    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.skepticalscience.com/graphics.php?g=43">http://www.skepticalscience.com/graphics.php?g=43</a><br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">The
            simple change of language from &#8220;global warming&#8221; to &#8220;climate
            change&#8221; should be proof enough that global warming is not
            happening. <br>
          </span></p>
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    This is not only wrong, but it is kind of a silly "proof". The main
    reason that the term has been changed was due to fact that many
    deniers made silly comments like "well it snowed here today, so much
    for global warming". The more precise term is in fact global climate
    change. That is being fueled by the increase in average global
    temperatures which are drastically affecting the climate. It is also
    worth understanding the difference between climate and weather.&nbsp; <br>
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            However, the politicians and greenies that used &#8220;global
            warming&#8221; as justification for bigger government and more
            government control of the private sector do not want to lose
            that traction as the fraud of global warming is being
            disproven.</span></p>
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    Again, this so wildly misunderstands the issue that it is hard to
    know where to start to respond. It is an example of the thinking
    that Al Gore invented global warming to take away your SUV.<br>
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            So they (the politicians and greenies) are now using
            &#8220;climate change&#8221; in a desperate attempt to tie any naturally
            occurring climate condition to human influence.</span></p>
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    No, they are using climate change for the reason I stated above.<br>
    <br>
    Here are a few nice graphics for people to look at. <br>
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    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.skepticalscience.com/graphics.php">http://www.skepticalscience.com/graphics.php</a><br>
    <br>
    I'm sorry, but the inability of any one person (or group of people)
    to understand something does not mean that the something is wrong.
    For instance, there are still people today who think the Earth is
    flat.<br>
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    Anthropomorphic influence on global warming/climate change is
    undeniable. I will grant that there is still much debate about what,
    if anything, we can do about it. But to deny its very existence will
    render that important debate nearly impossible.<br>
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    BTW - for those that wonder. I am a geologist by education and
    profession. Way back in 1983 I helped in some of the early research
    on the deep ice cores from the Antarctic. This is not a recent
    science.<br>
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    End of Rant for me.<br>
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