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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I
understand there were several teams that cancelled late coming to Muncie in
2011 because they couldn’t raise enough funds. I expect the trip to the USA for
most other teams would be comparable to SA for us.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dave<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Keith Hoard<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, February 27, 2013
8:25 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Bill Pritchett; General
pattern discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Team financial support<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Well,
its obvious that the “voluntary” contributions weren’t cutting it so some are
beginning to suggest mandatory “fees” of some sort or another on
everyone. I’m sorry that its going to cost $60K to send the crew 1/2 way
around the planet for a pattern competition, but they knew that when they
signed up for the Team Trials.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Whoever
thought to put the Worlds in South Africa needs to have their head
examined. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Was
McMurdoh Station in the Antarctic booked that week?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> <a href="mailto:billpritch@yahoo.com" title="billpritch@yahoo.com">Bill
Pritchett</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:48 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> [NSRCA-discussion] Team financial support<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>There are many ways to do this in a voluntary manner, and yet
remain in the spirit intended. Virtually all activities are completely
supported from the bottom up - you can even choose to donate $1 on your Fed
taxes!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Knowing the people involved here, and many of them very well, it's
not about anyone expecting something for nothing. If there is an
expectation, it's that we have something very special and it takes a lot of
effort from many to make it work. Nothing is being demanded, but by
sharing the information that Mark has given us on out of pocket expenses for
these guys, it would be my hope that lots of participants, fans, and supporters
would step up and help out to whatever extent is comfortable.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Bill<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>On Wed, Feb
27, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Keith Hoard <<a href="mailto:klhoard@hotmail.com"
target="_blank">klhoard@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>So you feel
the need to impose a tax on the lower classes so three guys can travel the
world to a pattern contest. <br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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On Feb 27, 2013, at 17:17, "Peter Vogel" <<a
href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com" target="_blank">vogel.peter@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>In any field
of endeavor, it is rare that the people with the talent have the money to
support their talent on their own, it's true in sports like ours and most of
the Olympic sports, it's true in the arts, it's been true for generations in
science and technology (Nicola Tesla, for example, made very little money from
his inventions that made several others multimillionaires (and created several
companies that are, today, multi-hundred-billion dollar multinational
corporations) but was supported in his explorations by several benefactors who
were willing to take a risk on him, some wanted no payback, others hoped the
next idea would be world changing as his AC generator (a.k.a brushless motor)
was and that they'd make money back. Others are patrons of the arts -- I
choose to be a patron of the Aeronautical arts known as Pattern Flying, I hope
that I'll be capable of flying advanced before I die, but I see no reason our talented
athletes like Andrew, Jason, Brett, and Joseph shouldn't get some help from
those less talented but more fortunate :-) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I suspect
most of us flying pattern wouldn't notice a few extra $ on an entry fee (about
the same cost as a coffee at Starbucks or breakfast at mcdonalds) but it could
make a big difference to future Team USA F3A members!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Peter+<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>On Wed, Feb
27, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Keith Hoard <<a href="mailto:klhoard@hotmail.com"
target="_blank">klhoard@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>What makes
you think that us lower class guys care to "support" the FAI
team? Some of you make it sound like we owe y'all a free trip.<br>
</span></font><font color="#888888"><span style='color:#888888'><br>
Keith Hoard<br>
Collierville, TN</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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On Feb 27, 2013, at 16:28, "Chuck Hochhalter" <<a
href="mailto:cahochhalter@yahoo.com" target="_blank">cahochhalter@yahoo.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
<br>
><br>
> We could add 5 bucks to every local contest entry and donate that to FAI.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Sent from my iPhone<br>
><br>
> On Feb 27, 2013, at 4:25 PM, Archie Stafford <<a
href="mailto:astafford@md.metrocast.net" target="_blank">astafford@md.metrocast.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Mark,<br>
>><br>
>> Another option is to adjust the entry fee for all classes. Maybe 25.00
per and all of that goes to the team. Would be easy enough to do.<br>
>><br>
>> Arch<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S™ III, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> -------- Original message --------<br>
>> From: "Atwood, Mark" <<a
href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com" target="_blank">atwoodm@paragon-inc.com</a>><br>
>> Date:<br>
>> To: General pattern discussion <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Team Selection - was 2013 NATS dates<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> As a side to that…<br>
>><br>
>> We need to have a serious discussion about the team selection and our
"Official" participation levels. FAI GUYS!!!! We NEED
many more of you to sign up for the team selection event (be it part of the
Nats or otherwise in 2014) if we're going to continue to get the same level of
funding that we get now from the AMA. To do that, I think we need
to drastically lower the price tag. The price tag ($170) is reminiscent
of holding a separate event and paying for the judges to come for 4 days and
judge. That's no longer an expense burden that the selection contest
bears.<br>
>><br>
>> The AMA has made "participation" a critical point factor in
determining the level of financial support that each team receives.
We don't get a lot of money, but they do pay for the World Championship entry
fees ($900 /pilot, $500 /team manager, $150 /caller ) which is a lot, and they
help with some of the hotel bill. It's a fraction of what we need, but
it's still a big help. For this year's WC's it's about $7800 of the $60K
we'll need. But if we don't increase our participation, we'll lose it.<br>
>><br>
>> This past Nats we had 30+ FAI flyers… but less than 10 participated in
the team trial….meaning they paid the entry fee. Admittedly, I was one
who did not. I finished 11th, but that's a far cry from top 3, so
spending $170 "Just to participate" didn't seem like a good value
proposition. But if we can lower the cost to say $30, or something
reasonable, then I would participate simply to support the team (that's where
the entry fee money goes by the way…all of it) especially knowing that it will
motivate the AMA to continue their funding.<br>
>><br>
>> I'll hammer this home more next year when it's more relevant, but
thought I'd chime in now :)<br>
>><br>
>> Please feel free to return to your regularly scheduled conversation.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Mark Atwood<br>
>> Paragon Consulting, Inc. | President<br>
>> 5885 Landerbrook Drive Suite 130, Cleveland Ohio, 44124<br>
>> Phone: <a
href="wlmailhtml:%7bBD4CA8BE-1E15-4FE6-9F03-D7B4B9F78D25%7dmid://00000088/">440.684.3101
x102</a> | Direct: <a
href="wlmailhtml:%7bBD4CA8BE-1E15-4FE6-9F03-D7B4B9F78D25%7dmid://00000088/">440-229-2502</a><br>
>> Fax: <a
href="wlmailhtml:%7bBD4CA8BE-1E15-4FE6-9F03-D7B4B9F78D25%7dmid://00000088/">440.684.3102</a><br>
>> <a href="mailto:mark.atwood@paragon-inc.com" target="_blank">mark.atwood@paragon-inc.com</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:mark.atwood@paragon-inc.com" target="_blank">mark.atwood@paragon-inc.com</a>>
| <a href="http://www.paragon-inc.com/" target="_blank">http://www.paragon-inc.com/</a><<a
href="http://www.paragon-inc.com/" target="_blank">http://www.paragon-inc.com/</a>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Feb 27, 2013, at 4:20 PM, Budd Engineering <<a
href="mailto:jerry@buddengineering.com" target="_blank">jerry@buddengineering.com</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:jerry@buddengineering.com" target="_blank">jerry@buddengineering.com</a>>>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Or a LOT easier because it's gotten so small. It's occurred to
some of us over the past several years that you could hold the US Team Trials
at a good local field and still have an as good, if not better, team selection
contest as we do now.<br>
>><br>
>> Incidentally, when I mentioned this to a couple of the AMA people at
the show in Ontario last month it was made quite clear that the "powers
that be" in AMA have absolutely no interest in allowing the Team Selection
contest to ever be held anywhere but at the AMA site in Muncie. Go
Figure.<br>
>><br>
>> -0<br>
>><br>
>> Jerry<br>
>><br>
>> Sent from my iPhone<br>
>><br>
>> On Feb 27, 2013, at 10:59 AM, "Dave Burton" <<a
href="mailto:burtona@atmc.net" target="_blank">burtona@atmc.net</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:burtona@atmc.net" target="_blank">burtona@atmc.net</a>>>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Amen +2<br>
>><br>
>> As pattern participation continues to shrink the possibility of having
the resources to hold the Nats at a different venue gets even more difficult.<br>
>> Dave<br>
>><br>
>> From: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] On Behalf Of John
Fuqua<br>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:54 AM<br>
>> To: 'General pattern discussion'<br>
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2013 NATS dates<br>
>><br>
>> AMEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br>
>><br>
>> From: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] On Behalf Of
Vicente "Vince" Bortone<br>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 9:43 AM<br>
>> To: General pattern discussion<br>
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2013 NATS dates<br>
>><br>
>> +1<br>
>> Vicente "Vince" Bortone<br>
>><br>
>> ________________________________<br>
>> From: "mike mueller" <<a href="mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com"
target="_blank">mups1953@yahoo.com</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com" target="_blank">mups1953@yahoo.com</a>>><br>
>> To: "Archie Stafford" <<a
href="mailto:astafford@md.metrocast.net" target="_blank">astafford@md.metrocast.net</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:astafford@md.metrocast.net" target="_blank">astafford@md.metrocast.net</a>>>,
"General pattern discussion" <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>>><br>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 9:36:31 AM<br>
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2013 NATS dates<br>
>> OK I want to play devil's advocate.<br>
>> What is all this talk about an off site Nats about?<br>
>> Is it that we need to move it around to allow new people to
participate? Or is it the changes to the schedule that basically takes away a
half day of practice?<br>
>> In my opinion it's not that big of a deal. Moving the Nats off site
would be a huge endeavor. Who has the resources, energy and financial where
with all to achieve this?<br>
>> I doubt that we could pull it off. Unless a lot of effort was put
forth to make it happen.<br>
>> I think the AMA has supported us in a decent manner.<br>
>> Also look at the current BOD of the AMA and you'll see that pattern is
well represented with more than our share. We also have Muncie employess who
are pattern fliers. We have friends in high places and I think we're doing
pretty well.<br>
>> I'm luck enough to go to the Muncie facility for 3 contests every
year. I'm amazed at the support we get from the AMA staff every time we go
there.<br>
>> Things could be a lot worse. Thanks, Mike Mueller<br>
>><br>
>> --- On Mon, 2/25/13, Archie Stafford <<a
href="mailto:astafford@md.metrocast.net" target="_blank">astafford@md.metrocast.net</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:astafford@md.metrocast.net" target="_blank">astafford@md.metrocast.net</a>>>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> From: Archie Stafford <<a href="mailto:astafford@md.metrocast.net"
target="_blank">astafford@md.metrocast.net</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:astafford@md.metrocast.net" target="_blank">astafford@md.metrocast.net</a>>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2013 NATS dates<br>
>> To: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
>> Date: Monday, February 25, 2013, 8:44 PM<br>
>> IMAC has been warned. They already lost one day from a few years ago.<br>
>><br>
>> Also, years ago I would've agreed. Today though the AMA has a lot more
park flyers and sport flyers than any other discipline . Most of my club,
with 86 members now flies smaller electrics. Many of the younger kids would
rather fly foamies than anything. Pattern, IMAC, and scale don't do anything
for them. The younger members are just different. 3D and helis are much more
exciting to them. Times have changed.<br>
>><br>
>> Arch<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S™ III, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> -------- Original message --------<br>
>> From: Ron Hansen <<a href="mailto:rcpilot@wowway.com"
target="_blank">rcpilot@wowway.com</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:rcpilot@wowway.com" target="_blank">rcpilot@wowway.com</a>>><br>
>> Date:<br>
>> To: <a href="mailto:vicenterc@comcast.net" target="_blank">vicenterc@comcast.net</a>,'General<mailto:<a
href="mailto:vicenterc@comcast.net" target="_blank">vicenterc@comcast.net</a>,'General>
pattern discussion' <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2013 NATS dates<br>
>><br>
>> What about IMAC they have less attendance at the NATS than us.
With their attendance I’m surprised the AMA will even give them a week.
Not that I’m suggesting they don’t deserve a week. One of the issues I
have with the NATS is that Intermediate and Advanced Pilots and those in
MASTERS and FAI that don’t make the cut don’t get any more flights than a
regular weekend contest. Perhaps more would attend if we offered every
pilot 12 guaranteed flights. That would make it more likely that the west
coasters would make the long trip to Muncie.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> No one gets hooked on RC by watching someone fly a park flyer.
You get hooked by watching someone go crazy with a heli or an IMAC plane or the
graceful flying of a pattern plane or the speed/wow factor of a jet or the roar
of a 4 engine B-17. These are all endeavors that are not associated with
the typical AMA member. If the AMA thinks they can survive without these
folks then let them try. What these groups need to do is stop supporting
the AMA with their articles, photos, etc. They’ll have nothing to draw
the attention of new members. AMA membership will never be what it used
to be because kids now a day are so much busier than they used to be and there
are so many more thinks competing for their interest. We need to find a
financially viable solution for both the NSRCA and the AMA not to mention all
the other SIGS. Without the SIGS there would be no AMA.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> From: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] On Behalf Of <a
href="mailto:vicenterc@comcast.net" target="_blank">vicenterc@comcast.net</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:vicenterc@comcast.net" target="_blank">vicenterc@comcast.net</a>><br>
>> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 6:20 PM<br>
>> To: General pattern discussion<br>
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2013 NATS dates<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Guys it is too early in the week to talk about good drinks. I
got to work tomorrow.<br>
>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T<br>
>><br>
>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>> From: Ronald Van Putte <<a href="mailto:vanputter@gmail.com"
target="_blank">vanputter@gmail.com</a><<a
href="http://us.mc1247.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vanputter@gmail.com"
target="_blank">http://us.mc1247.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vanputter@gmail.com</a>>><br>
>> Sender: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a><<a
href="http://us.mc1247.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">http://us.mc1247.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
>> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 16:57:02<br>
>> To: General pattern discussion<<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><<a
href="http://us.mc1247.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
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>> Reply-To: General pattern discussion <<a
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>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2013 NATS dates<br>
>><br>
>> For those who weren't there, we had several buses take us from the
Tullahoma airport about 12 miles to the Jack Daniels' distillery for the
"picnic". On the way back, there was a terrible
thunderstorm. When I mentioned the storm to some attendee the next day,
they said, "What thunderstorm?"<br>
>><br>
>> BTW, what did they call that stuff they served? Was it Lynchburg
Lemonade? It tasted wonderful and went down so smooth!<br>
>><br>
>> Ron<br>
>><br>
>> On Feb 25, 2013, at 4:48 PM, John Fuqua wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> At least that part you remember<br>
>>><br>
>>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>>> From: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a><<a
href="http://us.mc1247.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">http://us.mc1247.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
>>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a><<a
href="http://us.mc1247.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">http://us.mc1247.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>>]
On Behalf Of Ronald Van<br>
>>> Putte<br>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:47 PM<br>
>>> To: General pattern discussion<br>
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2013 NATS dates<br>
>>><br>
>>> The bus ride back from the Jack Daniel's distillery was memorable!<br>
>>><br>
>>> Ron<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Feb 25, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Atwood, Mark wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> Scott, I think Ron is correct on this one (biting my
tongue as I voice<br>
>>> that!) Back then the NSRCA had no input what so
ever. Obviously enough<br>
>>> was wrong with the way the AMA ran the event to create a complete
boycott of<br>
>>> the nationals in lieu of the NPAC.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Peter, has the nats every<br>
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