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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>+1<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>flyintexan@att.net<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 25, 2013 8:24 AM<br><b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Judging question for the experts<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>How soon before we hire figure skating judges?<br><br>-Mark<br>Sent from my phone.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id="htc_header"><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>----- Reply message -----<br>From: "Andre Bouchard" <<a href="mailto:txf3a@entouch.net">txf3a@entouch.net</a>><br>To: "General pattern discussion" <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Judging question for the experts<br>Date: Sun, Feb 24, 2013 11:14 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span>Don,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span>This question of course relates to the </span><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"ArialMT","serif"'>Annex 5B – F3 R/C Aerobatic Power Model Aircraft Manoeuvre Execution Guide, Section 5B.9...</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"ArialMT","serif"'>5B.9 </span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>SMOOTHNESS AND GRACEFULNESS OF THE MANOEUVRE </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"ArialMT","serif"'>"Concerns the harmonic appearance of an entire manoeuvre. Ie maintaining a constant flight speed throughout the various manoeuvre components, like in climbing and descending sections contributes significantly to smoothness and gracefulness. Radii performed very tight or very loose, though being of equal size within one manoeuvre may be subject for downgrading Smoothness and Gracefulness."</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"ArialMT","serif"'>If the radii are very abrupt the maneuver would not be "smooth and graceful." Similarly, if the radii are very loose the maneuver elements would likely not be well defined (not graceful?). I think "very" is the key word - beyond expectation, not normally seen, etc. Extending that thought, I think this would be a uncommon downgrade.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"ArialMT","serif"'>Stating the obvious here...there are no technical criteria for what constitutes "very tight or very loose" radii. The criteria are subjective.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"ArialMT","serif"'>Regards,</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"ArialMT","serif"'>Andre Bouchard</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Feb 24, 2013, at 9:13 PM, <a href="mailto:tocdon@netscape.net">tocdon@netscape.net</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>A question on radius judging. Tight radius (or loose radius) manevuer segments are subject to downgrade in FAI. What constitutes a tight radius? Physically tight (in feet, for example), or tight (fast speed through the radius giving the impression that the plane is pulling excessive g's, however that is interpreted). A slow flying radius could be extremely tight, for example the last radius at the bottom of the triangle loop (135 degree pull) or figure Z.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Don<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div></div></body></html>