<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Or a LOT easier because it's gotten so small. It's occurred to some of us over the past several years that you could hold the US Team Trials at a good local field and still have an as good, if not better, team selection contest as we do now.</div><div><br></div><div>Incidentally, when I mentioned this to a couple of the AMA people at the show in Ontario last month it was made quite clear that the "powers that be" in AMA have absolutely no interest in allowing the Team Selection contest to ever be held anywhere but at the AMA site in Muncie. Go Figure.</div><div><br></div><div>-0</div><div><br></div><div>Jerry</div><div><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Feb 27, 2013, at 10:59 AM, "Dave Burton" <<a href="mailto:burtona@atmc.net">burtona@atmc.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Amen +2<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">As
pattern participation continues to shrink the possibility of having the
resources to hold the Nats at a different venue gets even more difficult.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Dave<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, February 27, 2013
10:54 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> 'General pattern discussion'<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, February 27, 2013
9:43 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> General pattern discussion<br>
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color:black;font-weight:bold">From: </span></font></b><font color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">"mike
mueller" <<a href="mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com">mups1953@yahoo.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span></b>"Archie Stafford"
<<a href="mailto:astafford@md.metrocast.net">astafford@md.metrocast.net</a>>,
"General pattern discussion" <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent: </span></b>Wednesday, February 27, 2013
9:36:31 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span></b>Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
2013 NATS dates<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> OK I want to play devil's advocate.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> What is all this talk about an off site Nats
about?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> Is it that we need to move it around to allow
new people to participate? Or is it the changes to the schedule
that basically takes away a half day of practice?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> In my opinion it's not that big of a deal.
Moving the Nats off site would be a huge endeavor. Who has the resources,
energy and financial where with all to achieve this?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> I doubt that we could pull it off. Unless a
lot of effort was put forth to make it happen.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> I think the AMA has supported us in a decent
manner.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> Also look at the current BOD of the AMA and
you'll see that pattern is well represented with more than our share. We
also have Muncie employess who are pattern fliers. We have friends in
high places and I think we're doing pretty well.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> I'm luck enough to go to the Muncie facility
for 3 contests every year. I'm amazed at the support we get from the AMA
staff every time we go there.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> Things could be a lot worse. Thanks, Mike
Mueller<br>
<br>
--- On <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Mon, 2/25/13, Archie Stafford <i><span style="font-style:italic"><<a href="mailto:astafford@md.metrocast.net">astafford@md.metrocast.net</a>></span></i></span></b>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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From: Archie Stafford <<a href="mailto:astafford@md.metrocast.net">astafford@md.metrocast.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2013 NATS dates<br>
To: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
Date: Monday, February 25, 2013, 8:44 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">IMAC has been warned. They already lost one day from
a few years ago. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Also, years ago I would've agreed. Today though the
AMA has a lot more park flyers and sport flyers than any other discipline .
Most of my club, with 86 members now flies smaller electrics. Many of
the younger kids would rather fly foamies than anything. Pattern, IMAC, and
scale don't do anything for them. The younger members are just different. 3D
and helis are much more exciting to them. Times have changed. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Arch<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Sent via the Samsung
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-------- Original message --------<br>
From: Ron Hansen <<a href="mailto:rcpilot@wowway.com">rcpilot@wowway.com</a>>
<br>
Date: <br>
To: <a href="mailto:vicenterc@comcast.net,'General">vicenterc@comcast.net,'General</a>
pattern discussion' <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>>
<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2013 NATS dates <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="yiv1666746295msonormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">What
about IMAC they have less attendance at the NATS than us. With their
attendance I’m surprised the AMA will even give them a week. Not that
I’m suggesting they don’t deserve a week. One of the issues I have with
the NATS is that Intermediate and Advanced Pilots and those in MASTERS and
FAI that don’t make the cut don’t get any more flights than a regular weekend
contest. Perhaps more would attend if we offered every pilot 12
guaranteed flights. That would make it more likely that the west
coasters would make the long trip to Muncie.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="yiv1666746295msonormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">No one
gets hooked on RC by watching someone fly a park flyer. You get hooked
by watching someone go crazy with a heli or an IMAC plane or the graceful
flying of a pattern plane or the speed/wow factor of a jet or the roar of a 4
engine B-17. These are all endeavors that are not associated with the
typical AMA member. If the AMA thinks they can survive without these
folks then let them try. What these groups need to do is stop
supporting the AMA with their articles, photos, etc. They’ll have
nothing to draw the attention of new members. AMA membership will never
be what it used to be because kids now a day are so much busier than they
used to be and there are so many more thinks competing for their
interest. We need to find a financially viable solution for both the
NSRCA and the AMA not to mention all the other SIGS. Without the SIGS there
would be no AMA.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b><a href="mailto:vicenterc@comcast.net">vicenterc@comcast.net</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, February 25, 2013
6:20 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
2013 NATS dates</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="2" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Guys it is too early in the week to talk about good
drinks. I got to work tomorrow. <br>
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Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 16:57:02<br>
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2013 NATS dates<br>
<br>
For those who weren't there, we had several buses take us from the Tullahoma
airport about 12 miles to the Jack Daniels' distillery for the
"picnic". On the way back, there was a terrible
thunderstorm. When I mentioned the storm to some attendee the next day,
they said, "What thunderstorm?"<br>
<br>
BTW, what did they call that stuff they served? Was it Lynchburg
Lemonade? It tasted wonderful and went down so smooth!<br>
<br>
Ron<br>
<br>
On Feb 25, 2013, at 4:48 PM, John Fuqua wrote:<br>
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> At least that part you remember<br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a href="http://us.mc1247.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
> [<a href="http://us.mc1247.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] On
Behalf Of Ronald Van<br>
> Putte<br>
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:47 PM<br>
> To: General pattern discussion<br>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2013 NATS dates<br>
><br>
> The bus ride back from the Jack Daniel's distillery was memorable!<br>
><br>
> Ron<br>
><br>
> On Feb 25, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Atwood, Mark wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Scott, I think Ron is correct on this one (biting my tongue as
I voice<br>
> that!) Back then the NSRCA had no input what so ever.
Obviously enough<br>
> was wrong with the way the AMA ran the event to create a complete
boycott of<br>
> the nationals in lieu of the NPAC.<br>
>><br>
>> Peter, has the nats every been in a vacation spot??? Hmmmm.<br>
>> Lawrenceville, IL certainly wasn't, and even the Npac in Tullahoma<br>
>> wasn't exactly family friendly (although I seem to recall a wicked<br>
>> hangover from a very nice tour/picnic at the Jack Daniel's
distillary)<br>
>> Mark Atwood Paragon Consulting, Inc. | President<br>
>> 5885 Landerbrook Drive Suite 130, Cleveland Ohio, 44124<br>
>> Phone: 440.684.3101 x102 | Direct: 440-229-2502<br>
>> Fax: 440.684.3102<br>
>> <a href="mailto:mark.atwood@paragon-inc.com">mark.atwood@paragon-inc.com</a><<a href="http://us.mc1247.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mark.atwood@paragon-inc.com" target="_blank">mailto:mark.atwood@paragon-inc.com</a>> | <br>
>> <a href="http://www.paragon-inc.com">www.paragon-inc.com</a><<a href="http://www.paragon-inc.com/" target="_blank">http://www.paragon-inc.com/</a>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Feb 25, 2013, at 4:33 PM, Scott McHarg<br>
> <<a href="mailto:scmcharg@gmail.com">scmcharg@gmail.com</a><<a href="http://us.mc1247.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scmcharg@gmail.com" target="_blank">mailto:scmcharg@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> With all due respect to a very nice guy and a guy very involved with
what<br>
> goes on, I do not necessarily agree with your reason being over.
The NSRCA<br>
> does not have much say on how it is run at all. I will admit that
they, at<br>
> the very least, listen to our concerns now but the AMA runs the show.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Ronald Van Putte<br>
> <<a href="mailto:vanputter@gmail.com">vanputter@gmail.com</a><<a href="http://us.mc1247.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vanputter@gmail.com" target="_blank">mailto:vanputter@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>> We had N-PAC because AMA refused to permit NSRCA to have any say on
how<br>
> the Nats were run. That reason is over. Now we have to
compete for Nats<br>
> time with other SIGs. In my opinion, the best way to do that is to
increase<br>
> the number of Nats competitors in R/C Aerobatics.<br>
>><br>
>> Ron<br>
>><br>
>> On Feb 25, 2013, at 3:19 PM, Scott McHarg wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> We also used to have NPAC. Now, we have to do what we can
within the<br>
> framework of the AMA and their time restraints. It is very
unfortunate.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Charlie Rock<br>
> <<a href="mailto:charlierock@me.com">charlierock@me.com</a><<a href="http://us.mc1247.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=charlierock@me.com" target="_blank">mailto:charlierock@me.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>> And that is very very sad to hear!!! Charlie<br>
>><br>
>> "When people are afraid of a government that is -
Tyranny; And a<br>
> government that is afraid of the people that is - Liberty."<br>
> Thomas Jefferson<br>
>><br>
>> On Feb 25, 2013, at 3:12 PM, Archie Stafford<br>
> <<a href="mailto:astafford@md.metrocast.net">astafford@md.metrocast.net</a><<a href="http://us.mc1247.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=astafford@md.metrocast.net" target="_blank">mailto:astafford@md.metrocast.net</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I completely agree Ron but those days are gone. The AMA is no longer<br>
>> focused on competition like it used to be<br>
>><br>
>> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy ST III, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> -------- Original message --------<br>
>> From: Ronald Van Putte<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:vanputter@gmail.com">vanputter@gmail.com</a><<a href="http://us.mc1247.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vanputter@gmail.com" target="_blank">mailto:vanputter@gmail.com</a>>><br>
>> Date:<br>
>> To: General pattern discussion<br>
>> <<a href="http://us.mc1247.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org%3cmailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.%0b" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.<br>
</a>>> org>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2013 NATS dates<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I know that "suck" and "blow" are opposites, but
that situation both<br>
> "sucks" and "blows". We used to have a
designated "checkin/practice" day<br>
> and a "rain" day.<br>
>><br>
>> Ron<br>
>><br>
>> On Feb 25, 2013, at 2:42 PM, Archie Stafford wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Mike,<br>
>><br>
>> The AMA has shortened the total NATS period this year, so you read
that<br>
> correct. Fortunately, our actual flying days were not changed.
Soaring went<br>
> from 13 days to 6 days this year. In previous years, it was never truly
our<br>
> day, but it worked out that way as a day of setup for the workers.
We have<br>
> never had a true practice day, but since the sites were free, they were<br>
> available. Sites 1 and 4 may be available, but that remains to be
seen.<br>
> Once Pylon is done then we will be able to use the sites. Think of
it as<br>
> how the others sites have worked on Saturdays in previous years.<br>
>><br>
>> Archie<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Mon 02/25/13 3:31 PM , mike mueller<br>
> <a href="mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com">mups1953@yahoo.com</a><<a href="http://us.mc1247.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mups1953@yahoo.com" target="_blank">mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com</a>> sent:<br>
>><br>
>> I have a question too.<br>
>> On the AMA site they show RC Pylon still being there on the Sunday
the<br>
>> 21st. If that's the case will it stop us from practicing on that
day?<br>
>> Thanks, Mike<br>
>><br>
>> --- On Mon, 2/25/13, Bob Kane wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> From: Bob Kane<br>
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2013 NATS dates<br>
>> To: "General pattern discussion"<br>
>> Date: Monday, February 25, 2013, 2:23 PM<br>
>><br>
>> I sent a message on facebook, but here is my quesiton again via
"real"<br>
> email . . . .<br>
>><br>
>> Am I set to work site 1 again this year? I am not going to try
and<br>
> compete and work as I did last year, it did not work out very well.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks.<br>
>><br>
>> Bob Kane<br>
>> <a href="mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com">getterflash@yahoo.com</a><<a href="http://us.mc1247.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=getterflash@yahoo.com" target="_blank">mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com</a>><br>
>> ________________________________<br>
>> From: Archie Stafford<br>
>> To: General pattern discussion<br>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:03 AM<br>
>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] 2013 NATS dates<br>
>><br>
>> Just settled dates here at the NATS planning meeting. The official
dates<br>
> are now set and I want to get it out early.<br>
>><br>
>> July 21-25.<br>
>> Check-In is July 21.<br>
>> Intermediate & Advanced flying July 22-24 Masters and FAI
Prelims July<br>
>> 22-24 Masters & FAI finals July 25<br>
>><br>
>> Fees are the same as last year.<br>
>> Early entry deadline: June 24<br>
>> Late deadline: July 8<br>
>><br>
>> Fees will once again double after June 24. Refunds can be issued up
to 24<br>
> hours prior to start, minus the AMA part, so if you register early
and have<br>
> to change, you can get your NSRCA fees back.<br>
>><br>
>> Will update with more information later, but wanted to get the dates
out<br>
> for planning purposes.<br>
>><br>
>> Arch<br>
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