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    Oops you were right AMA compare them all FAI the first one sets the
    radius.&nbsp; (Judging would be easier if there were just one set of
    rules :)&nbsp; )<br>
    But pull&nbsp; up radius has to be the same as loop radius in the same
    maneuver.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/25/2013 9:00 PM, Stuart Chale
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      Isn't it the reverse?&nbsp; In AMA the first radius sets the radii for
      the rest of the maneuver.<br>
      And yes Jim the pull up radius has to be the same as the loop
      portion.<br>
      <br>
      Stuart C.<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/25/2013 8:55 PM, Patrick Harris
        wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAOtb9vAiokPz3yVrBNHY0LuGrfVNCZAhWwXroaV021tzTjbEjw@mail.gmail.com"
        type="cite">In FAI, the "<strong>first"</strong> radius of the
        maneuver establishes all radius's of the maneuver. In AMA
        classes, the last radius flown in the maneuver&nbsp;establishes the
        radius of the next (radius) in the maneuver. . <br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 5:00 PM, James
          Oddino <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:joddino@socal.rr.com" target="_blank">joddino@socal.rr.com</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div style="word-wrap:break-word">How about the radii in a
              half reverse cuban eight turnaround? &nbsp;Does the radius of
              the loop have to be the same as the radius of the pull to
              45 degrees?
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              <div>Jim O</div>
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                  <div>On Feb 24, 2013, at 7:13 PM, <a
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                      <div><font style="background-color:transparent">A
                          question on radius judging.&nbsp; Tight radius (or
                          loose radius) manevuer segments are subject to
                          downgrade in FAI.&nbsp; What constitutes a tight
                          radius?&nbsp; Physically tight (in feet, for
                          example), or tight (fast speed through the
                          radius giving the impression that the plane is
                          pulling excessive g's, however&nbsp;that is
                          interpreted).&nbsp;&nbsp; A slow flying radius could be
                          extremely tight, for example&nbsp;the last radius
                          at&nbsp;the bottom of the triangle loop (135 degree
                          pull) or figure Z.<br>
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                      <div><font style="background-color:transparent">Best

                          regards,</font></div>
                      <div><font style="background-color:transparent">Don</font></div>
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