<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><DIV><BR>Talking about Heathkit did anyone here know that Mike Gaishin who flys Intermediate in Michigan and makes the Contra's for Brenner&nbsp;holds a ton of patents for proportional radios?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;Mike worked for Heathkit in the 60's and 70's. He's a very interesting guy. His boss was an old pattern guy and happens to have been Steve Hannah's (San Diego) dad.&nbsp;His first name alludes me. Mike<BR>--- On <B>Tue, 2/12/13, Phil S. <I>&lt;chuenkan@comcast.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Phil S. &lt;chuenkan@comcast.net&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] jr ds8711 servo<BR>To: "General pattern discussion" &lt;nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org&gt;<BR>Date: Tuesday, February 12, 2013, 10:28 AM<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Well, I don't know about anyone else's age, but I built three different HeathKit radio systems, a 5-channel</FONT> SS, a 5-channel dual stick, and a 7-channel dual stick.&nbsp; They all worked (!!! ;-{O ), and I also remember reversing motor wires to change direction of the servo.&nbsp; When I got a little more money, I graduated to Kraft Gold systems.&nbsp; Still have a Signature 7-channel "dial-a-crash" that has been narrow-banded and is legal today.&nbsp; Also, I just came into a Kraft Gold 5-channel SS Tx, on channel 56, no less, so it, too is currently legal.&nbsp; Will I actaully fly them?&nbsp; I think I'll stick with my DX-8, thank you...<BR><PRE class=yiv862433639moz-signature>Phil Spelt, KCRC Past President
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(865)435-1476v, (865)604-0541c</PRE><BR>On 2/12/2013 11:07 AM, Atwood, Mark wrote: 
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE>Now I feel old… Ron help me.  I count on you for my comparitive youth.   I started with heath kit variants of the Kraft K-15 servo (and yes, I built them all).  The were slow, but hard to use.  Had to re-solder the motor wires to reverse direction back then.
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On Feb 12, 2013, at 10:57 AM, mike mueller &lt;<A class=yiv862433639moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="http://us.mc1247.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mups1953@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com">mups1953@yahoo.com</A><A class=yiv862433639moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="http://us.mc1247.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mups1953@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com">&lt;mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com&gt;</A>&gt; wrote:


Good point Ron. We've come a long way. I used to use Bonner servo's on my 6 channel MinEx reeds. They were huge and you had to wire them yourself.  Mike
--- On Tue, 2/12/13, Ronald Van Putte &lt;<A class=yiv862433639moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="http://us.mc1247.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vanputter@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:vanputter@gmail.com">vanputter@gmail.com</A><A class=yiv862433639moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="http://us.mc1247.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vanputter@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:vanputter@gmail.com">&lt;mailto:vanputter@gmail.com&gt;</A>&gt; wrote:

From: Ronald Van Putte &lt;<A class=yiv862433639moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="http://us.mc1247.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vanputter@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:vanputter@gmail.com">vanputter@gmail.com</A><A class=yiv862433639moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="http://us.mc1247.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vanputter@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:vanputter@gmail.com">&lt;mailto:vanputter@gmail.com&gt;</A>&gt;
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] jr ds8711 servo
To: "General pattern discussion" &lt;<A class=yiv862433639moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="http://us.mc1247.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A><A class=yiv862433639moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="http://us.mc1247.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">&lt;mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org&gt;</A>&gt;
Date: Tuesday, February 12, 2013, 9:38 AM

When I saw this e-mail, I chuckled.  Can anyone besides me remember when we used the Kraft KPS-18 servo?  As I remember it had 18 in-oz of torque!  It made up for its lack of torque by being slow too.

Ron Van Putte

On Feb 12, 2013, at 5:40 AM, Gordon Seeling wrote:

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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE>has 403oz of torque, same size as standard servo has anyone used it for rudder servo ??
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