<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>True!!!</span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <div style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" class="hr" contentEditable="false" readonly="true"></div> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Peter Vogel <vogel.peter@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Mike Mueller <mikemueller@f3aunlimited.com>; General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org>
<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, December 29, 2012 10:05 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] AMA Article on Wayne's Wheel Pants<br> </font> </div> <wbr>
<meta content="off" http-equiv="x-dns-prefetch-control"><div id="yiv833814201"><div><div>He does that and I bet you won't notice there are no wheel pants...<wbr><br>Sent from my iPhone5</div><div><wbr>On Dec 29, 2012, at 7:53 AM, Mike Mueller <<a href="mailto:mikemueller@f3aunlimited.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:mikemueller@f3aunlimited.com">mikemueller@f3aunlimited.com</a>> wrote:<wbr><wbr></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div><span> Hey Bob. That was worth telling it twice. Yes it's that bad Bob. You know how they have topless beaches? Maybe they should have old fugly guy beaches too. One's with big warning signs that pattern fliers who don't have wheel pants and guys like you are scary and may be harmful to your well being.</span></div><div><span> Keith you wear a speedo
while flying when I'm judging and I promise it won't effect your score. Hahahahahaha!!!! Thanks for that, Mike</span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <div style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" class="yiv833814201hr"></div> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Bob Kane <<a href="mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com">getterflash@yahoo.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>>; General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, December 29, 2012 8:59 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] AMA Article on Wayne's Wheel Pants<br> </font> </div>
<div id="yiv833814201"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div><span><table style="padding: 0px; color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;" border="0" cellSpacing="0" cellPadding="0"><tbody style="width: 426px;"><tr><td style="font: inherit; border-spacing: 2px; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit;" vAlign="top"><div style="padding: 0px; font-size: 12pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in;">Is there something wrong with that look? I think you just described me.</div><div></div></td></tr></tbody></table></span></div><div></div><div> </div><div>Bob Kane<a href="mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com">getterflash@yahoo.com</a></div> <div style="font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2"
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<div id="yiv833814201"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div><span>A pattern plane without wheel pants looks as bad as a fat old man at the beach with a tight speedo on. Add on some black shoes and socks for a better visual. It's not right.</span></div><div><span> But hey you all should do whatever makes you happy. Have a nice day, Mike</span></div><div></div> <div style="font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <div style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" class="yiv833814201hr"></div> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b>
"<a href="mailto:khoard@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:khoard@gmail.com">khoard@gmail.com</a>"
<<a href="mailto:khoard@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:khoard@gmail.com">khoard@gmail.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, December 28, 2012 11:00 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] AMA Article on Wayne's Wheel Pants<br> </font> </div>
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<div>I just stopped using wheel pants. Less weight. Less
complexity. Less hangar rash. Still haven’t found a downside . .
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="jpavlick26@att.net" href="mailto:jpavlick26@att.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:jpavlick26@att.net">John Pavlick</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 28, 2012 10:52 AM</div>
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<div class="yiv833814201MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">I
use Wayne’s method (found the original info on Bob’s site when it was up) with
one minor change: I found some machine screws with a large head at Home Depot. I
think they’re called “truss-head” screws. Yes they are slightly heavier (not
much I think it’s only about 1~2 grams) than a standard pan-head screw but I
like the idea of having more surface area in that area especially when attaching
to carbon-fiber gear legs. I use this method on all of my Pattern planes now.
Haven’t had a failure yet although my planes are by no means “overweight”.
LOL</span></div>
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<div class="yiv833814201MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">John
Pavlick</span></div>
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<div class="yiv833814201MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">
<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob
Pastorello<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 27, 2012 10:44 PM<br><b>To:</b>
General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] AMA Article
on Wayne's Wheel Pants</span></div></div>
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<div class="yiv833814201MsoNormal">Thanks, Wayne/Don....I remember how much I was impressed with
that setup, Wayne. Used it several times after; my overweight birds
benefited from the 8-32, but the 6-32 sure worked too. That was one clever
setup, Wayne! Hard to believe it was almost NINE years
ago.</div></div>
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<div class="yiv833814201MsoNormal">I appreciate your remembering my drawing and page; those were
good days!</div></div></div>
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<div class="yiv833814201MsoNormal">On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Wayne Galligan <<a href="mailto:wcgalligan@att.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wcgalligan@att.net">wcgalligan@att.net</a>>
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<div class="yiv833814201MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Thanks
Don,</span></div></div>
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<div class="yiv833814201MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I actually
used a 6/32 bolt on my wheel pants. 8/32 is stronger but I never had a failure
of the 6/32</span></div></div>
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<div class="yiv833814201MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">This
drawing and description was done by Bob Pastorello after I showed him my method
at the contest in Temple that year.</span></div></div>
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<div class="yiv833814201MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Bobs
website has been down for awhile and he always had useful information on
there.</span></div></div>
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<div class="yiv833814201MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Wayne
Galligan</span></div></div>
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<div class="yiv833814201MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <a title="donramsey@gmail.com" href="mailto:donramsey@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:donramsey@gmail.com">Don Ramsey</a>
</span></div></div>
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<div style="background: whitesmoke;" class="yiv833814201MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> Thursday, December
27, 2012 8:12 PM</span></div></div>
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discussion'</a> </span></div></div>
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<div style="background: whitesmoke;" class="yiv833814201MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> [NSRCA-discussion]
AMA Article on Wayne's Wheel Pants</span></div></div></div></div>
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<div class="yiv833814201MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">The
reference in the RC Aerobatics column in the latest AMA Magazine about Wayne’s
Wheel Pant Wizardry refers to Wayne Galligan’s method of mounting. To see
his sketch visit the building page on </span></div>
<div class="yiv833814201MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a href="http://pages.suddenlink.net/donramsey" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://pages.suddenlink.net/donramsey</a></span></div>
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<div class="yiv833814201MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Don</span></div>
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