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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/29/2012 9:30 AM, Ronald Van Putte
      wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote cite="mid:3CC7C730-98E0-4157-AFFF-5357379886C3@cox.net"
      type="cite">It may be that I just don't like wheel pants and more
      likely, that I want to "swim upstream" against common procedure
      just to irritate some people. &nbsp;It seems to be working.
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      <div>Ron</div>
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          <div>On Dec 29, 2012, at 7:49 AM, Archie Stafford wrote:</div>
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              <div>Completely agree Mike. Pretty airplanes fly better as
                well. Only excuse for not having wheel pants is
                retracts.&nbsp;</div>
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                <div style="font-size:75%;color:#575757">Sent via the
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              -------- Original message --------<br>
              From: Mike Mueller &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:mikemueller@f3aunlimited.com">mikemueller@f3aunlimited.com</a>&gt;
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              Date: <br>
              To: General pattern discussion &lt;<a
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                href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>&gt;
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              Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] AMA Article on Wayne's
              Wheel Pants <br>
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                <div><span>A pattern&nbsp;plane without&nbsp;wheel pants&nbsp;looks as
                    bad as a fat&nbsp;old man at the beach with a
                    tight&nbsp;speedo on. Add on some black shoes and socks
                    for a better visual. It's not right.</span></div>
                <div><span>&nbsp;But hey you all should do whatever makes you
                    happy.&nbsp; Have a nice day, Mike</span></div>
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                        "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:khoard@gmail.com">khoard@gmail.com</a>"
                        &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:khoard@gmail.com">khoard@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
                        <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
                        General pattern discussion &lt;<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>&gt;
                        <br>
                        <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
                        Friday, December 28, 2012 11:00 AM<br>
                        <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
                        Re: [NSRCA-discussion] AMA Article on Wayne's
                        Wheel Pants<br>
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                            <div>I just stopped using wheel pants.&nbsp; Less
                              weight.&nbsp; Less complexity.&nbsp; Less hangar
                              rash.&nbsp; Still haven&#8217;t found a downside . .
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                                <div>&nbsp;</div>
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                                  <div><b>From:</b> <a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      title="jpavlick26@att.net"
                                      href="mailto:jpavlick26@att.net"
                                      rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
                                      ymailto="mailto:jpavlick26@att.net">John
                                      Pavlick</a> </div>
                                  <div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 28,
                                    2012 10:52 AM</div>
                                  <div><b>To:</b> <a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel="nofollow"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'General
                                      pattern discussion'</a> </div>
                                  <div><b>Subject:</b> Re:
                                    [NSRCA-discussion] AMA Article on
                                    Wayne's Wheel Pants</div>
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                              <div>&nbsp;</div>
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                                    11pt;">I use Wayne&#8217;s method (found
                                    the original info on Bob&#8217;s site when
                                    it was up) with one minor change: I
                                    found some machine screws with a
                                    large head at Home Depot. I think
                                    they&#8217;re called &#8220;truss-head&#8221; screws.
                                    Yes they are slightly heavier (not
                                    much I think it&#8217;s only about 1~2
                                    grams) than a standard pan-head
                                    screw but I like the idea of having
                                    more surface area in that area
                                    especially when attaching to
                                    carbon-fiber gear legs. I use this
                                    method on all of my Pattern planes
                                    now. Haven&#8217;t had a failure yet
                                    although my planes are by no means
                                    &#8220;overweight&#8221;. LOL</span></div>
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                                      <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob
                                      Pastorello<br>
                                      <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December
                                      27, 2012 10:44 PM<br>
                                      <b>To:</b> General pattern
                                      discussion<br>
                                      <b>Subject:</b> Re:
                                      [NSRCA-discussion] AMA Article on
                                      Wayne's Wheel Pants</span></div>
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                                <div class="yiv1018815665MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>
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                                    <div class="yiv1018815665MsoNormal">Thanks,
                                      Wayne/Don....I remember how much I
                                      was impressed with that setup,
                                      Wayne.&nbsp; Used it several times
                                      after; my overweight birds
                                      benefited from the 8-32, but the
                                      6-32 sure worked too.&nbsp; That was
                                      one clever setup, Wayne!&nbsp; Hard to
                                      believe it was almost NINE years
                                      ago.</div>
                                  </div>
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                                    <div class="yiv1018815665MsoNormal">I
                                      appreciate your remembering my
                                      drawing and page; those were good
                                      days!</div>
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                                    <div class="yiv1018815665MsoNormal">On
                                      Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 8:31 PM,
                                      Wayne Galligan &lt;<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:wcgalligan@att.net"
                                        rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
                                        ymailto="mailto:wcgalligan@att.net">wcgalligan@att.net</a>&gt;
                                      wrote:</div>
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                                                &quot;sans-serif&quot;;">Thanks
                                                Don,</span></div>
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                                                style="font-family:
                                                &quot;Calibri&quot;,
                                                &quot;sans-serif&quot;;">I
                                                actually used a 6/32
                                                bolt on my wheel pants.
                                                8/32 is stronger but I
                                                never had a failure of
                                                the 6/32</span></div>
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                                                style="font-family:
                                                &quot;Calibri&quot;,
                                                &quot;sans-serif&quot;;">This
                                                drawing and description
                                                was done by Bob
                                                Pastorello after I
                                                showed him my method at
                                                the contest in Temple
                                                that year.</span></div>
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                                                style="font-family:
                                                &quot;Calibri&quot;,
                                                &quot;sans-serif&quot;;">Bobs
                                                website has been down
                                                for awhile and he always
                                                had useful information
                                                on there.</span></div>
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                                                style="font-family:
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                                                Galligan</span></div>
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                                                  <a
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
title="donramsey@gmail.com" href="mailto:donramsey@gmail.com"
                                                    rel="nofollow"
                                                    target="_blank"
                                                    ymailto="mailto:donramsey@gmail.com">Don
                                                    Ramsey</a> </span></div>
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                                                      Thursday, December
                                                      27, 2012 8:12 PM</span></div>
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                                                        rel="nofollow"
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ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'General pattern
                                                        discussion'</a>
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                                                      [NSRCA-discussion]
                                                      AMA Article on
                                                      Wayne's Wheel
                                                      Pants</span></div>
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                                                    font-size: 11pt;">The
                                                    reference in the RC
                                                    Aerobatics column in
                                                    the latest AMA
                                                    Magazine about
                                                    Wayne&#8217;s Wheel Pant
                                                    Wizardry refers to
                                                    Wayne Galligan&#8217;s
                                                    method of mounting.&nbsp;
                                                    To see his sketch
                                                    visit the building
                                                    page on&nbsp; </span></div>
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                                                    font-size: 11pt;"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://pages.suddenlink.net/donramsey">http://pages.suddenlink.net/donramsey</a></span></div>
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