<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Oh yeah, downwind turns. Please!<div><br></div><div>Ron</div><div><br><div><div>On Dec 29, 2012, at 1:56 PM, <a href="mailto:atwooddon@aol.com">atwooddon@aol.com</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><font color="black" size="2" face="arial">Wo<font size="2">uld you r<font size="2">ather talk about snap rolls or down<font size="2">wind <font size="2">turns? ;-)<br>
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From: Keith Black <<a href="mailto:tkeithblack@gmail.com">tkeithblack@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] AMA Article on Wayne's Wheel Pants<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Ronald Van Putte <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vanputter@gmail.com">vanputter@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Saturday, December 29, 2012 6:27 AM<br>
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<span style="">A pattern plane without wheel pants looks as bad as a fat old man at the beach with a tight speedo on. Add on some black shoes and socks for a better visual. It's not right.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<b>To:</b><span> </span>General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><span> </span><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Friday, December 28, 2012 11:00 AM<br>
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<b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Thursday, December 27, 2012 10:44 PM<br>
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