<html><head><base href="x-msg://91/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I did the same thing, but pilots often ask me why my airplane has no wheel pants. I sometimes explain why I don't use wheel pants, but it takes a while and gets tiring after a while. Sometimes I tell them that it's none of their $#@! business, but that response is apparently unsatisfactory to some. I need a "middle ground" answer.<div><br></div><div>Ron</div><div><br><div><div>On Dec 28, 2012, at 11:00 AM, <<a href="mailto:khoard@gmail.com">khoard@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" dir="ltr" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><div>I just stopped using wheel pants. Less weight. Less complexity. Less hangar rash. Still haven’t found a downside . . .</div><div style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri; font-weight: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; display: inline; "><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal tahoma; "><div> </div><div style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><div><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="jpavlick26@att.net" href="mailto:jpavlick26@att.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">John Pavlick</a></div><div><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, December 28, 2012 10:52 AM</div><div><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">'General pattern discussion'</a></div><div><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] AMA Article on Wayne's Wheel Pants</div></div></div><div> </div></div><div style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri; font-weight: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; display: inline; "><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I use Wayne’s method (found the original info on Bob’s site when it was up) with one minor change: I found some machine screws with a large head at Home Depot. I think they’re called “truss-head” screws. Yes they are slightly heavier (not much I think it’s only about 1~2 grams) than a standard pan-head screw but I like the idea of having more surface area in that area especially when attaching to carbon-fiber gear legs. I use this method on all of my Pattern planes now. Haven’t had a failure yet although my planes are by no means “overweight”. LOL<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p></o:p></span> </div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">John Pavlick<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p></o:p></span> </div><div style="border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-style: solid; border-right-width: medium; border-right-style: none; border-right-color: initial; border-bottom-width: medium; border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-color: initial; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-top: 3pt; padding-left: 0in; border-left-width: medium; border-left-style: none; border-left-color: initial; padding-right: 0in; "><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Bob Pastorello<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, December 27, 2012 10:44 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] AMA Article on Wayne's Wheel Pants<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><o:p></o:p> </div><div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; ">Thanks, Wayne/Don....I remember how much I was impressed with that setup, Wayne. Used it several times after; my overweight birds benefited from the 8-32, but the 6-32 sure worked too. That was one clever setup, Wayne! Hard to believe it was almost NINE years ago.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; ">I appreciate your remembering my drawing and page; those were good days!<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; "><o:p></o:p> </p><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; ">On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Wayne Galligan <<a href="mailto:wcgalligan@att.net" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">wcgalligan@att.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><div><div><div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Thanks Don,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">I actually used a 6/32 bolt on my wheel pants. 8/32 is stronger but I never had a failure of the 6/32<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">This drawing and description was done by Bob Pastorello after I showed him my method at the contest in Temple that year.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Bobs website has been down for awhile and he always had useful information on there.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Wayne Galligan<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><b><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="donramsey@gmail.com" href="mailto:donramsey@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">Don Ramsey</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245); "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, December 27, 2012 8:12 PM<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245); "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">To:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">'General pattern discussion'</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245); "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[NSRCA-discussion] AMA Article on Wayne's Wheel Pants<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">The reference in the RC Aerobatics column in the latest AMA Magazine about Wayne’s Wheel Pant Wizardry refers to Wayne Galligan’s method of mounting. To see his sketch visit the building page on </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><a href="http://pages.suddenlink.net/donramsey" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://pages.suddenlink.net/donramsey</a></span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Don</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: center; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><hr align="center" size="2" width="100%"></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div></div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><br>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><br><br clear="all"><br>--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Bob Pastorello<br><a href="mailto:rpasto513@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">rpasto513@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: center; "><hr align="center" size="1" width="100%" noshade="" style="color: rgb(172, 168, 153); "></div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; ">No virus found in this message.<br>Checked by AVG -<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.avg.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">www.avg.com</a><br>Version: 2013.0.2805 / Virus Database: 2637/5990 - Release Date: 12/27/12<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><hr>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>