<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><img src="cid:3996E317-1900-46DC-ABB7-9660648D1CC9" alt="image.jpeg" id="3996E317-1900-46DC-ABB7-9660648D1CC9"><br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Dec 8, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Astropattern <<a href="mailto:astropattern@yahoo.com">astropattern@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div>Also because as the engines/motors evolved more power, the props got longer and the need for longer ground clearance was going beyond what single-wire retracts could handle.</div><div><br></div><div>John<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Dec 8, 2012, at 7:32 PM, "Dave Harmon" <<a href="mailto:k6xyz@sbcglobal.net">k6xyz@sbcglobal.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D">….and weight.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D">Dave Harmon<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D">NSRCA 586<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D">K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D">Sperry, Ok.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a> [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>PhilS.<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 08, 2012 7:10 PM<br><b>To:</b> Mark Aulfinger; General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Retracts?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I think it has to do with the new style of flying -- slower, and especially trying to keep the down lines no faster than the horizontal lines. Dirty airframes provide more drag</span>. Also, no retracts leads to less mechanical complexity, and one less point of failure. But, I think the drag thingy is the main point...<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>Phil Spelt, KCRC President<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>AMA 1294 Scientific Leader Member<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>SPA 177 Board Member<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>(865)435-1476v, (865)604-0541c<o:p></o:p></pre><p class="MsoNormal"><br>On 12/8/2012 7:41 PM, Mark Aulfinger wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="color:black">Hi All,<br><br>Long time lurker on this message board. Wanted to ask why modern pattern planes don't have retracts? There's<br>no doubt a good reason that no one uses them anymore. Just curious why...I like the looks of a plane with the<br>gear tucked away. <br><br>Thanks in advance for any replies,<br>Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p></o:p></pre></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>NSRCA-discussion mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></span></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>NSRCA-discussion mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></span></div></blockquote></body></html>