<html><head><base href="x-msg://20/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">According to Miss Nancy, we need to vote on it so we can find out what is in it. What part of that don't you understand?<div><br></div><div>Ron</div><div><br><div><div>On Nov 30, 2012, at 10:35 AM, Keith Hoard wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div><div style="font-family: Calibri, 'Segoe UI', Meiryo, 'Microsoft YaHei UI', 'Microsoft JhengHei UI', 'Malgun Gothic', 'Khmer UI', 'Nirmala UI', Tunga, 'Lao UI', Ebrima, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; "><div>Is it too early for me to claim voter fraud?</div><div><div> </div><div>Sent from Windows Mail</div><div> </div></div><div style="border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; "><strong>From:</strong> Jon Lowe <<a href="mailto:jonlowe@aol.com">jonlowe@aol.com</a>><br><strong>Sent:</strong> November 30, 2012 8:32 AM<br><strong>To:</strong> Jim Quinn <<a href="mailto:jaqfly@prodigy.net">jaqfly@prodigy.net</a>><br><strong>CC:</strong> NSRCA <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Ballots<br></div><div> </div>I do too, but don't they deserve to know their reasons why the board is proposing the changes?<br><br><br><br>Jim Quinn <<a tabindex="-1" href="mailto:jaqfly@prodigy.net" target="_blank">jaqfly@prodigy.net</a>> wrote:<br><br><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><div> </div><div>I trust our membership.<br> </div>Jim Quinn<div><br></div><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><br><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><font face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>"<a tabindex="-1" href="mailto:jonlowe@aol.com" target="_blank">jonlowe@aol.com</a>" <<a tabindex="-1" href="mailto:jonlowe@aol.com" target="_blank">jonlowe@aol.com</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jim Quinn <<a tabindex="-1" href="mailto:jaqfly@prodigy.net" target="_blank">jaqfly@prodigy.net</a>>; General pattern discussion <<a tabindex="-1" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Fri, November 30, 2012 8:10:04 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Ballots<br></font><br>How do we have "informed discussion" if no rationale for the proposed changes has been provided? Who wrote them? Can't they provide the rationale? Surely the board discussed them.<br><br>Jon<br><br>Jon<br><br><div>----- Reply message -----<br>From: "Jim Quinn" <<a tabindex="-1" href="mailto:jaqfly@prodigy.net" target="_blank">jaqfly@prodigy.net</a>><br>Date: Fri, Nov 30, 2012 6:55 am<br>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Ballots<br>To: "<a tabindex="-1" href="mailto:jonlowe@aol.com" target="_blank">jonlowe@aol.com</a>" <<a tabindex="-1" href="mailto:jonlowe@aol.com" target="_blank">jonlowe@aol.com</a>><br><br></div><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><div> </div><div>Hi Jon,</div><div> </div><div>I tried to clean up the revisions when I sent them out.</div><div>I'm looking forward to an informed discussion on the web when our members receive the revisions in the mail.<br> </div>Jim Quinn<div><br></div><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><br><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><font face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>"<a tabindex="-1" href="mailto:jonlowe@aol.com" target="_blank">jonlowe@aol.com</a>" <<a tabindex="-1" href="mailto:jonlowe@aol.com" target="_blank">jonlowe@aol.com</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jim Quinn <<a tabindex="-1" href="mailto:jaqfly@prodigy.net" target="_blank">jaqfly@prodigy.net</a>>; General pattern discussion <<a tabindex="-1" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thu, November 29, 2012 7:35:39 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Ballots<br></font><br>Jim,<br>There were a lot of typos in the original bylaws revision in the meeting minutes, to include what I believe were wrong paragraph numbering in one case. Can you post the version we are being asked to vote on along with rationale for each change?<br><br>Job<br><br>Jon<br><br><div>----- Reply message -----<br>From: "Jim Quinn" <<a tabindex="-1" href="mailto:jaqfly@prodigy.net" target="_blank">jaqfly@prodigy.net</a>><br>Date: Thu, Nov 29, 2012 7:10 pm<br>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Ballots<br>To: "General pattern discussion" <<a tabindex="-1" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br><br></div><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; ">I’ve just returned from the post office.</div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; ">All current members will receive two documents in the mail in the next few days.</div><p class=" MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "> </p><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "><b><span style="font-size: 14pt; ">A. The ballot for President.</span></b></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; ">It is ¼ page so be sure to find it in the envelope.</div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; ">It is the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>ONLY</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>valid ballot to vote for the new President.</div><p class=" MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "> </p><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; ">I’ve requested their resumes be sent to our</div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; ">Discussion List</div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; ">Website and</div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; ">Face Book page.</div><p class=" MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "> </p><p class=" MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "> </p><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "><b>B. 2012 Revisions to By-Laws</b></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; ">It is a full page.</div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; ">You can approve individual items</div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; ">Or</div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; ">You can approve the entire revision.</div><p class=" MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "> </p><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "><b>IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE WITHOUT WEB ACCESS</b></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "><b>PLEASE LET ME KNOW.</b></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "><b>I’LL SEND A<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><b>PAP</b><b>ER<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><b>COPY</b><b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>OF THE RESUMES TO HIM/HER.</b></div><p class=" MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "> </p><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; ">Thank yo</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a tabindex="-1" href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a tabindex="-1" href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><br></div>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>