Earl,<br> The only issue with that would be if someone pays by e-check instead of a credit card through PayPal. The e-checks take several days to clear and the system cannot allow the user to take the exam until the e-check clears. If they pay via credit card, that wouldn't be a problem.<br>
<br>Scott<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:08 AM, ehaury <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ejhaury@comcast.net" target="_blank">ejhaury@comcast.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div><font face="Arial">Why not just have a PC available Sunday that folks can use
to certify online? Maybe someone to help with the process?</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial">Earl</font></div>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b>
<a title="astafford@md.metrocast.net" href="mailto:astafford@md.metrocast.net" target="_blank">Archie Stafford</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">General pattern discussion</a>
; <a title="jonlowe@aol.com" href="mailto:jonlowe@aol.com" target="_blank">jonlowe@aol.com</a>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 12, 2012 8:36
AM</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2012 NATS
Update</div>
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</div><div><div class="h5"><p>I am not against having a certification meeting, if someone wants to step
up and give it. We have a room we can use if needed.</p>
<p>Archie<br><br><br><br><b>On Thu 07/12/12 9:31 AM , <a href="mailto:jonlowe@aol.com" target="_blank">jonlowe@aol.com</a> sent:<br></b></p>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#5167c6 2px solid;PADDING-LEFT:5px;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px"><u></u>Thanks. Good to
know. <br><br>However the front page of the Nsrca site also talks about a
certification meeting after registration on Sunday
afternoon.<br><br>Jon<br>-- <br>Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail.
Please excuse my brevity.<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">Scott McHarg <u></u>wrote:
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<p>Jon,<br>As far as non-NSRCA members are concerned (and solely for
future reference), one does not need to join the NSRCA in order to create
a User ID and password for the site. That doesn't help "right now"
but that part is not an issue.</p>
<p>Scott</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jul 12, 2012 8:21 AM, <<a>jonlowe@aol.com</a>>
wrote:<br type="attribution">
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Arch,<br>While this doesn't affect me, the letter you
sent out with the registration confirmation says that judging
certification is on Sunday on the schedule of events on the first page.
Many Nsrca members are not on this list. How are they supposed to know
there isn't a certification meeting? Since it is in the official
material, looks like a protest in waiting. Further, there is nothing
that says you have to be an Nsrca member to fly in the Nats. How do they
get certified if they can't get a user name and password for the Nsrca
site? IMHO it is way too late to change what the official mailing
stated.<br><br>Jon<br>-- <br>Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail.
Please excuse my brevity.<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">Archie Stafford <<a>astafford@md.metrocast.net</a>> wrote:
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;MARGIN:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
<p>The 2012 NATS are quickly approaching and I wanted to send out a
final update. Derek Koopowitz has created a site that will be
the center for NATS updates. On this site you can get all of
your information as well as see the overview of what is going
on. You will notice a few things that are slightly different
this year. We are going to try a few things and see what
happens.</p>
<p>First, for anyone flying Masters, you will notice the flight orders
are different than the past. In previous years, the groupings
were established and you were stuck flying in front of, or behind the
same guy all 6 rounds. This year, we have used the grouping as
always, but since each day is a new contest, we combined the two
groups on a site that day. This allows guys in their same group
to call for each other, without having that person be directly behind
them. It also will allow people to follow and be in front of
different pilots each day. Your flight order inside your group
is essentially unchanged, but there will be someone from the other
group between pilots in a group for the most part, except when one
group is smaller than the other.</p>
<p>Second, we are going to try something new for the judging of the
finals. This is not on that sheet, as we haven't created the
finals judges, but after talking with Earl Haury, our plan is to
identify ideally 25+ judges for a pool. This will allow us to
have judges for both Masters and FAI, but never having a judge have to
judge the same sequence twice. We will use 5 Masters judges, 10
FAI judges, and 2 zero judges for the unknowns. The plan would
be that a judge would just 1 round of Masters and 1 round of FAI,
either an unknown or a known. Obviously, with only 25 judges and
above parameters, a few judges would end up judging a round of
Masters, a round of known, and a round of unknown. This will
keep people from having to be on the Masters site more than 1 round,
and also, help with the problem in the past of guys judging rounds of
Masters back to back. </p>
<p>Third, there will be no judges certifcation this year on
site. With the ability to do this online, it eliminates the need
to have one on site. </p>
<p>Next, you will notice that we are still short judges on
Wednesday. If you are willing to step up and judge a second
time, please let me know so that we can begin to fill in some of these
holes. In previous years, we have had to scramble on site to locate
more judges, but we are hopeful that by putting this information out
early that a few people will volunteer to fill these slots prior to
being on site.</p>
<p>Also, please buy your banquet tickets EARLY. This year, it
will be on the AMA site at the McCullough room, which is located
adjacent to the museum. It is being catered by Johnny Corrino's
and we will have a choice of the different types of pasta as well as
salad and a dessert. We will have an open CASH bar on site as
well. Banquet tickets will be only $15.00. We will have an
open CASH bar on site as well. At the banquet this year, since
it is on Wednesday, we will hand out Intermediate, and Advanced awards
in front of everyone. FAI, and Masters finalists, will be
announced, flight orders drawn, and the unknowns will be handed out to
the FAI pilots.</p>
<p>Finally,</p>
<p>I want to say a huge thank you to everyone who has helped put all
this together. I can not thank Scott Smith enough for the job he
has done developing a new scoring software which made this all
possible. Not only does it continuously keep score for Masters
and FAI, even with the Matrix, but it also is capable of creating
flight orders, and the judging matrix. This will be an
incredibly valuable tool, even on a local level. Scott did all
of this purely as a volunteer and I have no idea how many hundreds of
hours of his own time he devoted to this. By using his software,
as soon as a round is complete, even if Masters and FAI, we can export
the file as a .pdf and Pete Cosky will then load it on to the NATS
website on the NSRCA page. Our goal is within 30 minutes to 1
hour of the conclusion of flying that the scores will be posted on
this site.</p>
<p>OK, now for the disclaimer. This site is still technically
not finished. We could have pilots drop out and such, and may
need to fill holes. Please use this site as a reference only,
and please verify once you are on site that nothing for you has
changed. Also, you will notice, as this site is on a public
page, that my cell phone and Pete's cell phone are X'd out. On your
pilot packages, our numbers will be printed, so anyone needing to
reach us once in Muncie will have that opportunity. </p>
<p>Here is the link to the site. </p>
<div><a href="http://nsrca.us/index.php/nats2012" target="_blank"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;COLOR:#282211;FONT-SIZE:10pt">http://nsrca.us/index.php/nats2012</span></a>
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<div>Be safe on your travels, and we will see everyone next weekend in
Muncie.</div>
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<div>Archie Stafford</div>
<div>2012 Pattern NATS Event
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