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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#000000" vlink="#000000"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>OK, Thanks Jon.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jon Lowe<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:15 PM<br><b>To:</b> nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Certified Judge List<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>It is in the packet that you get back from AMA after you register.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Jon</span></span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Dave Burton <<a href="mailto:burtona@atmc.net"><span style='color:windowtext'>burtona@atmc.net</span></a>><br>To: 'General pattern discussion' <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><span style='color:windowtext'>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>><br>Sent: Tue, Jun 12, 2012 9:42 pm<br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Certified Judge List<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id="AOLMsgPart_2_f0070fd4-b172-4024-90a1-3d8fd19de452"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Ok, but I couldn’t find that in the rules either. Where’s all this spelled out?</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentColor currentColor'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"><u><span style='color:blue'>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></u></a> [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org?"><u><span style='color:blue'>mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></u></a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ronald Van Putte<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:06 PM<br><b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Certified Judge List<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>You don't have to be certified, but, if you don't, your highest scoring flight is zeroed.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>On Jun 12, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Dave Burton wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Is there a real requirement to be certified to fly in the Nats? Where is it stated? I can’t find it in the rules or on the entry form. Where am I missing it?</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Dave</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentColor currentColor'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"><u><span style='color:blue'>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></u></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"><u><span style='color:blue'>mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></u></a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Joe Lachowski<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:56 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>NSRCA Discussion List<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Certified Judge List<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>And then next year it'll be another $5 for AMA certification. Masters pilots do judge AMA classes, as well.<br> <br>On another note, if you are currently certified, and a new rule book comes out the next year, why should you have to take a test on the whole thing again when all you need is a summary of the changes for review. Frankly, I am getting tired of taking these tests to be certified just to participate in the Nats and I'm not interested in sitting in a classroom at Muncie either.<br> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net"><u><span style='color:blue'>vanputte@cox.net</span></u></a><br>Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:01:23 -0500<br>To:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><u><span style='color:blue'>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></u></a><br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Certified Judge List<br><br>Yeah, then pay your $5. Otherwise you are "persona non grata". <VBG><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>On Jun 12, 2012, at 12:51 PM, Scott McHarg wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>You have to log on to the website.<br>Scott<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>On Jun 12, 2012 12:49 PM, "Anthony Romano" <<a href="mailto:anthonyr105@hotmail.com"><u><span style='color:blue'>anthonyr105@hotmail.com</span></u></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>When I try to look at the list it says I am not authorized. <br> <br>Does that mean I need to recertify?<br> <br>Anthony<br> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:39:23 -0700<br>From:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:jon.x.carter@oracle.com"><u><span style='color:blue'>jon.x.carter@oracle.com</span></u></a><br>To:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><u><span style='color:blue'>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></u></a><br>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Certified Judge List<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>To all NSRCA pilots – I hope you all know that the full judging course and tests are now available on-line through the NSRCA website. We (the Judging Committee) and especially Derek Koopowitz (both our webmaster and on the Judging Committee!) have worked hard on this. The updated list of current Certified Judges is also available through the judging section of the NSRCA website.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>If your name is not on the certified judges list and you think it should be please let me know. I will need to know when you took the course and who the instructor was. Bear in mind that a given certification only lasts until the rules change for that event. For instance, if you took the full course at the Nats last year you were certified for AMA events until 12/31/2012 and FAI events until 12/31/2011. At this point, in order to be certified to judge FAI, you would need to log on to the NSRCA website, pay the $5 fee and download the FAI Re-certification course and test. Once you have passed the course (80% is required) I will update your records as being certified for FAI until 12/31/2013.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Jonathan L. Carter</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br>Chairman – NSRCA Judging Committee<br>E-mail<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:joncarter60@comcast.net"><u><span style='color:blue'>joncarter60@comcast.net</span></u></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br>_______________________________________________ NSRCA-discussion mailing list<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><u><span style='color:blue'>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></u></a><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank"><u><span style='color:blue'>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</span></u></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><u><span style='color:blue'>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></u></a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank"><u><span style='color:blue'>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</span></u></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><u><span style='color:blue'>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></u></a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank"><u><span style='color:blue'>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</span></u></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br>_______________________________________________ NSRCA-discussion mailing list<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><u><span style='color:blue'>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></u></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank"><u><span style='color:blue'>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</span></u></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><u><span style='color:blue'>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></u></a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank"><u><span style='color:blue'>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</span></u></a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div id="AOLMsgPart_3_f0070fd4-b172-4024-90a1-3d8fd19de452"><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><u><span style='color:blue'>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></u></a><o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank"><u><span style='color:blue'>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</span></u></a><o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre></div></div></div></body></html>