<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">When I was an event director for one Nats in the 1990s, I zeroed Team USA member Bill Cunningham's highest scoring flight when he didn't show up for his job assignment. A penalty system should be applied evenly, no matter who commits the infraction.<div><br></div><div>Ron</div><div><br><div><div>On Jun 13, 2012, at 11:52 AM, Bob Richards wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><div>Seriously? I thought he was joking when he said your highest flight score would be zeroed. I guess the next thing will be that you have to have NSRCA membership or get penalized.</div>
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<div class="yiv1163548614WordSection1"><p class="yiv1163548614MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">OK, Thanks Jon.</span></p></div><div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div>
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<div><p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class="yiv1163548614MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original Message-----<br>From: Dave Burton <<a href="http://us.mc1616.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=burtona@atmc.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:burtona@atmc.net"><span style="COLOR: windowtext">burtona@atmc.net</span></a>><br>To: 'General pattern discussion' <<a href="http://us.mc1616.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><span style="COLOR: windowtext">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>><br>Sent: Tue, Jun 12, 2012 9:42 pm<br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Certified Judge List</span></p></div>
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<div><p class="yiv1163548614MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Ok, but I couldn’t find that in the rules either. Where’s all this spelled out?</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></span></p></div></div>
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<div><p class="yiv1163548614MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">You don't have to be certified, but, if you don't, your highest scoring flight is zeroed.</span></p></div>
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<div style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><p class="yiv1163548614MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:39:23 -0700<br>From:<span class="yiv1163548614apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://us.mc1616.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jon.x.carter@oracle.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:jon.x.carter@oracle.com"><u><span style="COLOR: blue">jon.x.carter@oracle.com</span></u></a><br>To:<span class="yiv1163548614apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://us.mc1616.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><u><span style="COLOR: blue">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></u></a><br>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Certified Judge List</span></p></div></div>
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