<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Yep from the rules point of view it is clear but if you come from left to right, go to ke to the right showing canopy, youd have to make the neg snap first. If you make it positive it will be imposible to keep the maneuvre aligned.</div><div><br></div><div>Is that right ?<br><br>I love that maneuver for how much setup it needs</div><div><br></div><div>Marcelo V<br><br>Enviado desde mi iPhone</div><div><br>El 28/05/2012, a las 11:12, "Derek Koopowitz" <<a href="mailto:derekkoopowitz@gmail.com">derekkoopowitz@gmail.com</a>> escribió:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Yes, any roll/snap reversal must be immediate if the direction of the roll/snap is opposite to the first roll/snap. If the snap/roll is in the same direction as the first roll then you can take your time.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">In the ¼ roll, opposite snap rolls, ¼ roll in the F sequence… if you fly from left to right (for instance) and you roll right to KE (1/4 roll), as soon as you hit KE you need to initiate the snap to the left (if you snap left first) and then as soon as that snap completes you need to snap to the right and as soon as that snap finishes you need to start the ¼ roll left back to upright. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If you roll right to KE (1/4 roll) and then snap right first you can extend the KE flight first before initiating the snap… and then immediately snap left after the first snap is completed and then you can extend that line in KE further before rolling to the left to finish the rolling portion of the maneuver.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Choices to be made… LOL<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:tocdon@netscape.net">tocdon@netscape.net</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 28, 2012 6:30 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [NSRCA-discussion] Maneuver<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:24.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red"><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:24.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red">If the first snap roll is opposite to the first ¼ roll<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:24.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red">there must be no lines between the ¼ rolls and the<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:24.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red">snap rolls.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">So if you snap roll the same direction as the first 1/4 roll, you can take as long of a line as you would like before the first snap? Just want to make sure I understand this difference.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Don<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>From: tocdon <<a href="mailto:tocdon@netscape.net">tocdon@netscape.net</a>><br>To: nsrca-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>Sent: Mon, May 28, 2012 9:23 am<br>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] FAI rules<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id="AOLMsgPart_2_4e802259-0926-49fc-b3be-6c12085f6c68"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Does anyone have the link(s) for FAI rules- The links on the NSRCA site on United States rules for FAI appears to contain some background, rules proposals and unknown maneuver descriptions- but am looking for the rules current for 2013<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Thanks much,<br><br>Don<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="AOLMsgPart_3_4e802259-0926-49fc-b3be-6c12085f6c68"><pre style="background:white"><tt><span style="color:black">_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt><span style="color:black">NSRCA-discussion mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt><span style="color:black"><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>NSRCA-discussion mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></span></div></blockquote></body></html>