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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’ll bet ya a hot dog and coke at the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Verne<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Anthony Abdullah<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 10, 2012 1:44 PM<br><b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] D4 Cleveland Contest update<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ouch!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I like a challenge and will make a friendly wager with ANY one that would like to bet that there won't be a Cleveland contest in 2013! <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>No wait.... Promises promises. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I know it sounds like another excuse but it was a long shot from the word go. To go from an idea the second week in April to a contest the second or third weekend in May would have been a tall order, specially for a first time CD, first time DVP, not having spoken to the host club. Even then I thought I could pull it off, but I tend to be over confident that way!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Bob Kane, get some practice!!!!!!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Anthony <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Verne Koester <<a href="mailto:verne@twmi.rr.com">verne@twmi.rr.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Wed, May 9, 2012 12:43:38 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] D4 Cleveland Contest update</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If the long-awaited Cleveland contest ever does materialize, you should call it “The Phantom Memorial” or maybe “The Promises, Promises Classic” … :>)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Verne</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]">[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Anthony Abdullah<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 09, 2012 10:37 AM<br><b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> [NSRCA-discussion] D4 Cleveland Contest update</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>During the Toledo show I committed myself to trying to put together a contest in the Cleveland Ohio area. The thought was to put together an event that would serve as the first D4 contest of the year as we don't have any in May.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The preferred dates were the weekend of May 19th. I spoke with the club president and unfortunately there was already a club event scheduled for that weekend. The only dates available were the following weekend May 26th and 27th. The combination of that bieng Memorial Day weekend and the very short planning/turn around time convinced me to give it a pass this year. There were other considerations that persuaded me to forego it (club flying can not start before noon on Sundays, it's possible to get a pass on that for a weekend but probably not in time for the event.). As such, there will be NO Cleveland contest this year, but I am already planning the first Cleveland Ohio contest in over 15 years for late May 2013 (unless the kookie Mayans are correct of course). <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I would still be thrilled to host a one day group practice session/pattern primer/get together for the weekend of the 26th if anyone is interested. I can print some score sheets and make sure there are at LEAST two people behind you criticizing you as you fly.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Let me know what the level of interest is and I will start working out the details.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thank you<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Anthony <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>D4<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Dan Curtis <<a href="mailto:warrior523@att.net" target="_blank">warrior523@att.net</a>><br><b>To:</b> General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Tue, May 8, 2012 9:26:06 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Looking for a pattern plane</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> John Gayer <<a href="mailto:jgghome@comcast.net" target="_blank">jgghome@comcast.net</a>><br><b>To:</b> General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Tue, May 8, 2012 8:12:27 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Looking for a pattern plane<br></span><br>You are still only reading the regulator output from one of the lipos and both outputs would have to be the same. <br>Ed is saying the single regulator dual outputs are not independent as they would be if you used two tech-aero or jaccio regulators.<br>Sounds like a good system to have on a smaller cheaper aircraft than our 2 meter pattern planes. Gives you redundant batteries but not redundant power systems. You are now reliant on a single point of failure 14 dollar regulator. <br>John<br>On 5/8/2012 5:01 PM, Ronald Van Putte wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Any comments from Jim Oddino? <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On May 8, 2012, at 5:51 PM, Ed Alt wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Not necessarily. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></strong><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net" target="_blank" title="vanputte@cox.net">Ronald Van Putte</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> Tuesday, May 08, 2012 6:38 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Looking for a pattern plane</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Hmmmm. I wonder why I measure different voltages when I switch on the two 2S lipo batteries at different times. If it had a single regulator, I would think the output voltage would be the same, no matter which battery was chosen. </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Ron</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>On May 8, 2012, at 5:25 PM, Ed Alt wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>It’s actually a dual output single regulator that can switch between two power sources. It provides two leads from the same internal source, so only the battery side of things has any redundancy.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Ed</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net" target="_blank" title="vanputte@cox.net">Ronald Van Putte</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> Tuesday, May 08, 2012 6:16 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Looking for a pattern plane</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Ron - It is a dual regulator/switch which allows you to hook up two lipo batteries and have them separately regulated to 5.9 volts and use one or both of the outputs. Look here: </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=16811" target="_blank">http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=16811</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I sell them for under $20.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Ron</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>On May 8, 2012, at 4:42 PM, ronclark <a href="http://tds.net/" target="_blank">tds.net</a> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Hey Ron, rusty and old, but I'm going to give it another try. Emory Schroeter told me about a dual regulator for the receiver pack that you are selling, what's the scoop?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Ron</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 5:41 AM, Ronald Van Putte <<a href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net" target="_blank">vanputte@cox.net</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Hey Ron: Buy it and our old fingers can duke it out again. I look forward to having you on the contest trail again. </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Ron</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>On May 3, 2012, at 11:24 PM, AC Glenn wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Hey Ron I have a Ca Models Visa for sale ready to fly and would be more than happy to drive it down to your place. <br><br>Sent from my iPhone</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br>On May 3, 2012, at 7:39 PM, "ronclark <a href="http://tds.net/" target="_blank">tds.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:ronclark@tds.net" target="_blank">ronclark@tds.net</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I'm looking for a used pattern plane. It's been about 10 years since my last contest, and I want to give these old fingers another chance. I'm looking for a fixed gear 2m design, and plan to do an electric setup. I can convert a methanol burner if necessary. I live in Nashville,tn., avoiding shipping would be good. Please reply off line to: <a href="mailto:ronclark@tds.net" target="_blank">ronclark@tds.net</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks...Ron</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" 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