<div class="gmail_extra">My flying may certainly be qualified as ugly but done right, these look just fine... LOL<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Doug Cronkhite <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:seefo@san.rr.com" target="_blank">seefo@san.rr.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">In all of your descriptions, I think you're right but also think that'll make for some ugly flying<br>
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On Apr 24, 2012, at 10:32 AM, Derek Koopowitz <<a href="mailto:derekkoopowitz@gmail.com">derekkoopowitz@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> I've had several conversations with different people about maneuvers P-13.03 (Consecutive three 1/4 Rolls followed by consecutive three 1/4 rolls in the opposite direction), F-13.05 (Roll combination with consecutive 1/4 roll, two snap rolls opposite, 1/4 roll), F-13.09 (45 degree upline with consecutive four 1/8 rolls followed by 1 1/2 snap in opposite direction) and F-13.11 (Clown dance with 1/2 loop, inverted 2 1/2 turn spin and two 1/4 rolls down).<br>
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> In P-13.03 - there is no pause between the end of the 1st three 1/4 rolls and the start of the second set of 1/4 rolls - the reversal must be immediate. I think a lot of people are thinking of this maneuver as a 3 of 4 point roll followed by a 3 of 4 point roll opposite and thus want to put an extended line between the two sets of 3 of 4 point rolls. Since these are three 1/4 rolls, there is no requirement to extend the line after the 3rd 1/4 roll to make it "symmetrical" and thus the roll reversal should start immediately after the plane finishes the third 1/4 roll.<br>
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> F-13.05 - There is no pause after the 1st snap and the 2nd snap should happen immediately after the 1st one.<br>
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> F-13.09 - This is just like P-13.03 in that the 1 1/2 snap roll must happen immediately after the four 1/8 rolls. There is no line between the end of the fourth 1/8 roll and the snap roll.<br>
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> F-13.11 - Since this maneuver contains 2 elements (the 1/2 loop and then the spin), the center of the maneuver should be exactly in the middle - in other words, the distance to the outermost radius of the 1/2 loop (from the middle) is the same as the distance to the start of the spin entry. As an example, this would be identical to the placement of a double immelman on center - 1/2 the maneuver will be to the left of center and the other half of the maneuver will be to the right of center.<br>
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> Comments/questions?<br>
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