<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Aren't batteries chemical.. I'm no ap but have some knowledge of electrical production .. ;)<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Apr 22, 2012, at 4:42 PM, "Scott Smith" <<a href="mailto:js.smith@verizon.net">js.smith@verizon.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><!--[if !mso]><style>v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Motors convert electrical energy to mechanical energy; engines convert chemical energy to mechanical energy (first thing we learned in in the P part of A&P school!)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Powerplant should cover it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Fuqua<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 22, 2012 5:33 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'General pattern discussion'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules change proposals<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If “engine” was changed to “motor” would that solve the question? Or should it say “fuel/electric propulsion systems that….”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]">[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jon Lowe<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 22, 2012 3:52 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules change proposals<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Good catch Jim. The way it is worded, it specifically would exclude motors!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Jon</span></span><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>From: James Oddino <<a href="mailto:joddino@socal.rr.com">joddino@socal.rr.com</a>><br>To: General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>Sent: Sun, Apr 22, 2012 3:41 pm<br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules change proposals<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id="AOLMsgPart_2_dcb5d265-124f-4071-87c4-16b2a2f61aba"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Who wrote the words and what was their intention? I guarantee it doesn't do what they intended because it doesn't apply to electric powered aircraft that don't have engines. <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">I would interpret it to mean something like control line engines that automatically change mixture setting from horizontal to vertical flight.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">I've said it before. We don't need more rules and regulations, we need fewer. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Jim<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">On Apr 22, 2012, at 9:49 AM, Peter Vogel wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Quick question on the "functions not allowed" section of RCA13-4-McHarg: <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">9. Engine management systems that coordinate power output with model performance, position, or <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">attitude.”<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Does that make systems such as the Hacker Senestrol system which ensures a consistent RPM based on throttle position illegal? I know they were specifically designed for F3A use in Europe and have been popular...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Peter+<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 9:18 AM, J N Hiller <<a href="mailto:jnhiller@earthlink.net">jnhiller@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Attached is a summery of the RC Aerobatics rules change proposals for the<br>2013-14 cycle. I put this together for a presentation at our judging seminar<br>yesterday.<br><br>The actual proposals can be viewed at<br><a href="http://www.modelaircraft.org/events/ruleproposals/rcaerobatics.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.modelaircraft.org/events/ruleproposals/rcaerobatics.aspx</a><br>The initial vote ballots are due at AMA headquarters May 1 2012.<br>Contact your AMA district contest board representative with your concerns<br>and preferences regarding these proposed changes immediately as time is<br>short. Here is a link to the contest board members.<br><a href="http://www.modelaircraft.org/events/cbmembers.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.modelaircraft.org/events/cbmembers.aspx</a><br><br>I pause before sending this fearing I may not have it all correct. If I'm in<br>error just delete it and accept my apology.<br>Jim Hiller<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><br><br clear="all"><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">-- <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Director, Fixed Wing Flight Training<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Santa Clara County Model Aircraft Skypark<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><image001.jpg></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div id="AOLMsgPart_3_dcb5d265-124f-4071-87c4-16b2a2f61aba"><pre style="background:white"><tt><span style="color:black">_______________________________________________</span><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt><span style="color:black">NSRCA-discussion mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style="background:white"><tt><span style="color:black"><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>NSRCA-discussion mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></span></div></blockquote></body></html>