<html><head><base href="x-msg://253/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Huh? You talkin' to me?<div><br></div><div>Ron</div><div><br><div><div>On Mar 27, 2012, at 7:56 PM, J N Hiller wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="blue" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><span class="EmailStyle20" style="color: navy; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">Ron I'm thinking I need to plan the KV-RPM-Pitch relationship at 3.3 v/c. Is this realistic?<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><span class="EmailStyle20" style="color: navy; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">Jim<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><span class="EmailStyle20" style="color: navy; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "> <o:p></o:p></span></font></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: black; ">-----Original Message-----<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b>Ronald Van Putte<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, March 27, 2012 5:50 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>General pattern discussion<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 8- cells?</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; ">I think the biggest problem for 8S battery fliers will be vertical performance, especially late in the flight.</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; "> </span></font><font color="black"><span style="color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; ">Ron</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; "> </span></font><font color="black"><span style="color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; ">On Mar 27, 2012, at 7:38 PM,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:atwooddon@aol.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">atwooddon@aol.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black; "><br><br></span></font><font color="black"><span style="color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0.5in; margin-left: 1in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; ">Keith, I think there was a recent thread on RCU discussing a 2M model with 8S. <o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0.5in; margin-left: 1in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0.5in; margin-left: 1in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; ">For same relative performance (minus weight impact) you will need to increase the amps by about 20-25% to get the same watts. You would either need a motor with a higher kV or a higher pitched prop or both to get similar watts.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0.5in; margin-left: 1in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0.5in; margin-left: 1in; margin-bottom: 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; ">Don<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0.5in; margin-left: 1in; margin-bottom: 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; ">-----Original Message-----<br>From: Keith Hoard <<a href="mailto:khoard@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">khoard@gmail.com</a>><br>To: General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>Sent: Tue, Mar 27, 2012 2:06 pm<br>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] 8- cells?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><div id="AOLMsgPart_0_9c49d54e-ebe3-42af-be72-044252897fff"><pre style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0.5in; margin-left: 1in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><tt><font size="2" color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; ">Is anyone trying 8 cells this year in their 2 meter plane?<o:p></o:p></span></font></tt></pre><pre style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0.5in; margin-left: 1in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><tt><font size="2" color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></font></tt></pre><pre style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0.5in; margin-left: 1in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><tt><font size="2" color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; ">Keith Hoard<o:p></o:p></span></font></tt></pre><pre style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0.5in; margin-left: 1in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; 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