<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">When i see the credibility of a friend questioned, i "stir up trouble". Nothing more.<div><br></div><div>Ron</div><div><br><div><div>On Mar 18, 2012, at 8:37 PM, Phil S. wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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Quit stirring up trouble, RVP -- I used to see Dave B. pretty regularly
at SPA events, and our paths haven't crossed lately -- missed seeing a
friend, that's all. Where's the "put down" in that???????<br>
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On 3/18/2012 7:13 PM, Ronald Van Putte wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:36DF478E-557B-4DB9-BBAB-F4F3453CF3A6@cox.net" type="cite">I think that "I haven't seen you at an event is several
years" is meant as a put-down. Well, I have seen Dave many times at
contests in the southeast during the past several years. I have
called for him and vice versa. He's been active, so I assume he's
"earned" the right to comment on what he sees as unfair.
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<div>On Mar 18, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Phil S. wrote:</div>
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First, Dave, I haven't seen you at an event is several years -- t'would
be good to see you again! Second, I have not seen anyhone doing
anything forcing pilots to fly electric in pattern. That is a choice
each person makes freely. That said, I, too, have always wondered why
the weighing parameters are what they are -- without fuel but with
batteries. I have never come across a rationale for that difference.
Anyone out there know why? The only difference in the two power
systems I can see is that fuel burns off and the plane gets lighter
during a flight, but the battery always weighs what it weighs, but I
don't see why that would matter...<br>
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On 3/18/2012 2:06 PM, Dave Burton wrote:
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<div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">George,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Yours
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an interesting post. In an environment where we are all flying the
same power systems I think you would be spot on. However, what I’d like
to see is a change that accounts for the fact that glow planes must
make 5Kg without fuel and electric must make 5Kg with fuel. In order
for comparable planes to comply with the weight it’s necessary for
electric to use more hi-tech and expensive components, lighter less
durable building techniques, more expensive and lighter accessories,
etc. thus increasing the cost. Almost every glow 2M plane takes off
above 5Kg and flies at above 5Kg the entire sequence. I know there are
exceptions but I think it’s generally true. I know I could choose to
fly glow and not have an issue. However I want the advantages of
electric without having to pay a significant cost penalty to do so.
Let’s fix the inequity of this in the AMA classes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Dave
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