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<div class="Section1"><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Jim i am running my Jeti on a High speed
channel, but i guess the rx is not in HS mode. I am wondering if the 7008SB
follows the same pattern as the 6028 and is in High Speed all the time on
channels 1 - 6?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<div>
<div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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</span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style="font-weight:
bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>James Oddino<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, March 16, 2012 3:57
PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <st1:personname w:st="on">General
pattern discussion</st1:personname><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt">I know the Jeti Box does not measure the pulse width on the high speed
channels and I would guess the ESC wouldn't work either. I run my
throttle (Spin 99 ESC) on channel 7 and I suspect that was because it didn't
work on high speed but I truly can't remember if I actually tried it on a HS
channel. I told you I was getting old. Does the 18MZ receiver have
any low rep rate channels?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt">Jim O<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt">On Mar 16, 2012, at 1:31 PM, ehaury wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt"><br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial">Jon</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial">Possibly, as Derek mentioned - setting the RX from HS to standard
is worth trying.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial">Earl</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;
margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial">----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div style="font-color:black"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#E4E4E4"><b><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> <a href="mailto:jonlowe@aol.com" title="jonlowe@aol.com">Jon Lowe</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold">To:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> Friday, March 16,
2012 3:29 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="3" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">Can
average volts cause problems like Robert is seeing? Could the speed
control be looking for both a voltage peak and duration?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><font size="4" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">Jon</span></font></span><font color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="3" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">-----Original
Message-----<br>
From: ehaury <<a href="mailto:ejhaury@comcast.net"><font color="black"><span style="color:windowtext">ejhaury@comcast.net</span></font></a>><br>
To: <st1:personname w:st="on">General pattern discussion</st1:personname> <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><font color="black"><span style="color:windowtext">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></font></a>><br>
Sent: Fri, Mar 16, 2012 3:24 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<div id="AOLMsgPart_2_b35c1f35-15b5-4b5f-bfc7-c5ad82755735">
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">Well, Jim caught me. So much for quick
& dirty! <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">I made the servo signal measurements
using a high impedance meter with a scope mode. It displays a voltage at the
top of the scope screen, as well as a freq. Without thinking, that voltage is
the number I reported, and it's 50% different between the RX's because one was
operating at 2X the freq of the other, but it's not pulse amplitude but
average volts. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">I took another look and the actual pulse
amplitude is the same for both, and is 3v as Jim observed. Pretty obvious
upon thinking about it. So - Futaba didn't change anything and Robert's problem
isn't with pulse amplitude. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">Jim, thanks for questioning me - sorry
for the confusion. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div style="font-color:black"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#E4E4E4"><b><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black"> <a href="mailto:joddino@socal.rr.com" title="joddino@socal.rr.com"><font color="black"><span style="color:windowtext">James Oddino</span></font></a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold">To:</span></font></b><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black"> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><font color="black"><span style="color:windowtext">General pattern discussion</span></font></a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></font></b><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black"> Friday, March 16, 2012 1:55 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></font></b><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black"> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">Earl, something doesn't look right.
How did you measure the pulse amplitude? Did you have a servo
connected? I measure 3.0 volts peak unloaded on a 6108SB. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">On Mar 16, 2012, at 8:18 AM, ehaury
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">I compared the servo pulse amplitude of
the 6008HS (0.64v) and the 7008SB (0.32v) RXs. That's a significant difference,
while Futaba servos are designed to work at that level, other stuff isn't.
That's likely the issue with your ESC. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">Earl<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div style="font-color:black"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#E4E4E4"><b><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black"> <a href="mailto:robcase1@cox.net" title="robcase1@cox.net"><u><font color="blue"><span style="color:blue">Robert Green</span></font></u></a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold">To:</span></font></b><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black"> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><u><font color="blue"><span style="color:blue">'General pattern discussion'</span></font></u></a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></font></b><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black"> Friday, March 16, 2012 8:44 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></font></b><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black"> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Thanks Earl i was told that someone else
in <st1:place w:st="on">Europe</st1:place> was experiencing similar problems with
theirs as well. Hope they can get it resloved.</span></font><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:black"> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"><u><font color="blue"><span style="color:blue">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></font></u></a>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>ehaury<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, March 16, 2012 8:27
AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <st1:personname w:st="on">General
pattern discussion</st1:personname><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC</span></font><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">Suggest you give Futaba service / Steve
Kaluf a call. It may be that the RX pulse rise is a little low for the ESC.
Futaba have, in the past at least, used a lower pulse amplitude than some
others which resulted in strange results when mixing servos on occasion. If
this is the case, the problem is more compatibility with the ESC than RX
defect, still annoying though.</span></font><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">Earl</span></font><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#E4E4E4"><b><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black"> <a href="mailto:robcase1@cox.net" title="robcase1@cox.net"><u><font color="blue"><span style="color:blue">Robert Green</span></font></u></a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold">To:</span></font></b><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black"> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><u><font color="blue"><span style="color:blue">'General pattern discussion'</span></font></u></a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></font></b><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black"> Friday, March 16, 2012 7:42 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></font></b><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black"> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Ed, I don't like it either I mat try a
ferrite ring, as I like the telemetry feature on the tx from the rx.
Anyone else using the 18MZ receiver seeing any issues with the motor cutting
out?</span></font><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color:black"> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"><u><font color="blue"><span style="color:blue">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></font></u></a>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Ed White<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, March 16, 2012 6:56
AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <st1:personname w:st="on">General
pattern discussion</st1:personname><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC</span></font><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">Robert,<br>
<br>
The only way I can think of that this is a receiver problem is that motor or
ESC noise is being picked up on the ESC lines (any or all) and the 8 channel Rx
is somehow more tolerant of the noise or better able to filter it than the
other Rx. I would be uncomfortable at leaving this at - I have to use my
old receiver. <br>
<br>
Ed<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:black"> Ronald Van Putte <<a href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net"><u><font color="blue"><span style="color:blue">vanputte@cox.net</span></font></u></a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <st1:personname w:st="on">General
pattern discussion</st1:personname> <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><u><font color="blue"><span style="color:blue">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></font></u></a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thu, March 15, 2012 10:14:28
PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC<br>
</span></font><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black"><br>
Wait a minute. "</span></font><span class="apple-style-span"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy">The problem was with the receiver." doesn't quite cut it.
What was the problem? </span></font></span><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">I'm glad you
got the problem "solved", but you can't trust that receiver until you
identify the problem. BTW, "I don't know" is a perfectly valid
answer, but you could save somebody else a lot of grief if you know what was
wrong with the receiver.</span></font></span><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">Ron</span></font></span><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">On Mar 15, 2012, at 8:26 PM, Robert Green
wrote:</span></font><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Well I think I found the issue with the
Jeti and the Plettenberg. The problem was with the receiver. I
recently got a new radio, and installed the new rx in the plane, and then the
issue started showing up. I even went and borrowed a Jeti99Spin, to see
if this would resolve the issue, but it did not, so I started to think of
everything that I had changed, and decided to go back to my 8 channel receiver
and voila, everything is back to normal. Thanks to everyone for there
input. Feels good to have the problem behind me</span></font><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color:black"> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"><u><font color="blue"><span style="color:blue">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></font></u></a>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Robert Campbell<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, March 15, 2012
8:38 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <st1:personname w:st="on">General
pattern discussion</st1:personname><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC</span></font><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">My suggestion to limit throttle isn't to
limit current draw. It's to limit the motor RPM's so the ESC can remain
synchronized with the motor. If the motor turns faster than the ESC can
handle, the motor will begin screeching. I've only seen this on outrunners,
never inrunners.</span></font><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color:black"> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><u><font color="blue"><span style="color:blue">General pattern discussion</span></font></u></a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color:black"> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">That was my thought. I don't understand why one
would want to limit the throttle to something less than full. Why not install
a prop that loads the motor less?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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--- On <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Thu, 3/15/12, Peter Vogel <i><span style="font-style:italic"><<a href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com"><u><font color="blue"><span style="color:blue">vogel.peter@gmail.com</span></font></u></a>></span></i></span></b>
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From: Peter Vogel <<a href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com"><u><font color="blue"><span style="color:blue">vogel.peter@gmail.com</span></font></u></a>><br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC<br>
To: " <st1:personname w:st="on">General pattern discussion</st1:personname>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Limiting throttle does NOT limit current to the
motor, in fact, it can cause higher current draw. All throttle does is
vary the on vs off cycle during which voltage is sent to the motor. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Peter+<br>
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Sent from my iPhone4S<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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On Mar 14, 2012, at 7:29 PM, "Robert Green" <<a href="http://us.mc1616.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=robcase1@cox.net" target="_blank"><u><font color="blue"><span style="color:blue">robcase1@cox.net</span></font></u></a>>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Hi Rob, the Static amps on the ground is
81 amps. My throttle is limited to 85 percent. Even changed out
the speed controller and the same thing happened. Really wish i
knew what was going on?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Robert Campbell<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, March 14, 2012
9:18 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <st1:personname w:st="on">General
pattern discussion</st1:personname><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial">Which Jeti are you running? Advance or Spin?
Just a guess, but all the outrunners I've run require low timing
advance and some require fixed end points and the throttle to be limited to
70 percent or so. Also, have your checked your set-up on a watt
meter? Sometimes our set-ups pull more current than we were expecting
and the ESC over current protection kicks in.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
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[NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial">Is anyone out there running this combo. Went flying
today, and had some issue with the speed controller cutting out when i was
setting up for my approach into the pattern. I was pulling up and
advanced the throttle to do an reverse cuban eight to get into my pattern,
when the motor suddenly quit. I pulled the throttle back and advanced
it once again and the motor came back it did this on every flight except the
first flight where i had no issues whatsoever. my setting are high timing
for the motor, low cut off voltage, acceleration high,</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>
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